Message from @ELIS314

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2021-01-02 18:48:16 UTC  

Atheism is something on your lips, not in your heart.

2021-01-02 18:48:17 UTC  

Like I find its teachings useful

2021-01-02 18:48:33 UTC  

Atheism is against human nature.

2021-01-02 18:48:39 UTC  

Good, but if you find one part helpful, why not be consistent and accept all of it?

2021-01-02 18:48:52 UTC  

Because I didn't read all of it lol

2021-01-02 18:48:59 UTC  

Like I am a slow reader

2021-01-02 18:49:00 UTC  

If you believe one part of it, you ought be consistent and accept the rest of it.

2021-01-02 18:49:09 UTC  

Yeah, you’re like those people that say “I’m just spiritual, I don’t believe in any religion 😤 💅”

2021-01-02 18:49:11 UTC  

It's not that difficult if you pace yourself

2021-01-02 18:49:34 UTC  

I can explain some reading paces that might be helpful

2021-01-02 18:49:36 UTC  

Like I dont belive god is real

2021-01-02 18:49:44 UTC  

Well, you are wrong on that

2021-01-02 18:49:46 UTC  

@LuckyPuffy I would dissagree with that, atheism is not inherently bad, it's just one could make an arguement that having faith, even a tiny shred of it is philosophically healthy

2021-01-02 18:49:51 UTC  

But I do find the bible useful as a critique of society

2021-01-02 18:49:52 UTC  

Not trying to be confrontational

2021-01-02 18:49:56 UTC  

God doesn’t have to be right in front of you in order for him to be real.

2021-01-02 18:50:16 UTC  

I will not pretend I belive in something I dont belive in

2021-01-02 18:50:24 UTC  

I think deep down you do realize that God is real, but you're just suppressing it

2021-01-02 18:50:27 UTC  

@ELIS314 I'm not sure i belive in my god either, but the shred of faith I do have helps me greatly

2021-01-02 18:50:53 UTC  

Like I view the bible as a critique of roman society and its downfall and I belive atheists should view it as such

2021-01-02 18:51:06 UTC  

At least the second testament

2021-01-02 18:51:21 UTC  

It’s not a critique. It’s not a look on society. It’s the rules of our society.

2021-01-02 18:51:33 UTC  

god or no god, its has some very good ethics writen in

2021-01-02 18:51:42 UTC  

Well its rules for society so you dont end up like the roman empire

2021-01-02 18:52:12 UTC  

I just dont need God to be real to respect those rules , I dont need anything to do that I just want to

2021-01-02 18:52:12 UTC  

Yes, good ethics, but if you agree with that, you should go on and accept the rest of it--what aren't you accepting of it? The supernatural parts?

2021-01-02 18:52:20 UTC  

No, it’s something even deeper.

2021-01-02 18:52:28 UTC  

Religion is deep.

2021-01-02 18:52:33 UTC  

Yeah ,the supernatural parts are just metaphors

2021-01-02 18:52:40 UTC  

If God did not exist, those rules are arbitrary, so why follow them...?

2021-01-02 18:52:44 UTC  

God is just a metaphor for the world we live in

2021-01-02 18:52:46 UTC  

They are not metaphors

2021-01-02 18:52:49 UTC  

I agree with you.

2021-01-02 18:52:58 UTC  

There’s a thin line here.

2021-01-02 18:53:15 UTC  

They are interwoven through the message of the Bible--the Bible is a supernatural Book because it comes from a supernatural God.

2021-01-02 18:53:22 UTC  

Because they are good rules and a tool for me to live good by, I care about me haveing a good life and self indulgence instead the best life

2021-01-02 18:53:35 UTC  

Soon, you’ll start believing morality is relative, and therefore, you can do whatever you want. And you’ll fall into vice because there’s no objective authority to tell you what’s right or wrong, and if there’s no God, then the rules are useless.

2021-01-02 18:53:36 UTC  

If you accept the Bible, you ought accept the supernatural. It's part and parcel of it.

2021-01-02 18:53:56 UTC  

Like I dont care that jesus walked on water I care that Jesus thought us to care for other people

2021-01-02 18:54:00 UTC  

That's called hedonism. What about what happens to you after you die??

2021-01-02 18:54:10 UTC  

I accept the bible the same way I accept 1984