photobomb

yup

it's actually quite annoying

I'm happy I wasn't actually trying for a good image because it would have been ruined

Haha happened to me to

Ruined my startrail

A flock of KC-135Rs south of Spain

#artemisgeneration

@Yukon

I agree with you. With the private sector finally allowed to unleash, I would not be surprised if we have a mission to Mars in the next 10-15 years. Space tourism is really no more than a decade away assuming no regulatory issues.

If the Democrats don't get in the way, I really see it happening. They would probably demand that the space agencies hire "diversely" and drive their prestige into the ground. Or those businesses would pack up and go to other nations, turning the US into another starving authoritarian state.

Without the senate, Artemis is going nowhere

I’m honestly not too worried about any sort of democrat interference in the Artemis program

Ah yes. They'll be peaceful until the crackhead decides he wants to do what his primary school bus driver did for a living.

That defense gave you the freedom to say that idiotic thing.

Gotta sleep. Good night.

It’s honestly very feasible to get costs down to roughly $100 per kilo witching the next few years. Many seem to have ignored the colossal advances made in the past decade or so especially with SpaceX and blue origin. Additionally, asteroid mining has the potential to be far to lucrative to ignore and as launch costs decrease feasibility increases immensely.

well the artemis plan is already set to get the first woman on the moon by 2024, and have us just go back in general, so-

Though asteroid mining is quite reliant on a established presence in the moon to further reduce costs

Yeah, at this point to attempt to detail the Artemis program based off of a diversity issue is ludicrous

yea

so dumb

China isn’t as advanced as people think when it comes to space. While they are fairly capable, they do not have the private sector driving force the US has

yeah. the reason why it is good to have mltiple orginazations all working on the same thing is because they give eachother insight and different veiws

Yes; however, they appear to be gaining proficiency in lunar rover capability but I have not been getting the indication that they are at the stage where they are prepared to establish a lunar base

I view chinas capability on space flight rn much like that if their J-20 program, making progress, but still facing huge hurdles (WS-15 in the J-20s case)

Indeed, they are fairly reliant on US reasearch as they have demonstrated from the J-20 program

Now what’s more likely is a China-Russia lunar program

That’s far more dangerous

They still lag behind, awaiting US innovation to utilize. They have repeatedly shown how they have struggled with aerospace

At least they finally have the ARJ21 in service

Exactly, they have repeatedly shown human life has no value other than CCP officials. They are going to end up having a greater bark than their bite. Their lack of technological innovation in aerospace leaves me not overly concerned of a CCP lunar program which is superior to Artemis

Unfortunately the US has boxes itself in with reliance on satellites. The space force is now gaining additional capability with the X-37B

Yup X-37 is dope

As long as innovation stays at its current rate, the space force should attain a satisfactory level of deterrence for any Chinese action

Keep in mind the anti satellite capability demonstrated by the F-15A with the AM-135 in 1984. The US does need to ramp up its anti satellite capability but there is going to be a level of confidentiality in which I doubt the public will be aware for potentially a decade after new programs are implemented. I am going to snooze now but nice chatting

I thought the AM-135 was experimental

They just fired it once

Okay gotcha, gn

i think people need to realize that the chinese arent as peaceful as they want us to think

For sure