you're out of your mind

No it isn't. What do you think stateless means?

@米饭和面条 epic capitalist moment 😎

you can say that communism is stateless

It literally is.

doesn't make it so

By definition it literally is stateless.

well, the state controls everything, so I'm not really sure how that works

You don't know shit about communism then.

You just described state socialism.

how is the common ownership of the means of production to be managed?

Good question. That's why I'm not a commie.

IT NEEDS A STATE

commies can say they want a stateless society

By definition, communism cannot have a state.

by function, communism must have a state

No. That's called state socialism.

I don't really care what their definition says

I care about function

I do. That's how you beat commies in a debate.

I beat commies in debate by pointing at the failure of all of the communist nations that have existed and failed

None of them were communist.

They were all state socialist shitholes.

I guess that's why it's called the CCP

Ah yes, I guess North Korea really is a democratic republic!

I guess what I'm driving at is that socialism and communism are not exactly the same, but they're close enough that IDGAF about the minor differences between them

There are very major differences.

both are horrible

Communism is a more idiotic ideology.

they're both centrally planned garbage

You can have socialism without a centrally planned economy.

I'm tired of arguing with you. Persist in your ignorance if you must

Ironic since you literally said you don't care about the different definitions of leftist economics.

I'm not the ignorant one here. I actually talk to commies to try and learn more about their ideology. That's also partly why I'm so opposed to them.

The fact that you talk to commies to learn about their ideology means your head is being filled with lies in an Orwellian way. They hijack words, they constantly move goalposts, they twist things around using logical fallacies in an effort to validate their decision to join the commie team by recruiting you in an ideological Ponzi scheme.

You honestly think I would try and join their "commie team"? My parents came from Maoist China to the United States.

Are you clinically insane? So just because I talk to people who oppose me politically my head is filled with lies?

Do you honestly believe I would still be opposed to communism if I bought into their bullshit?

You are delusional and terribly misinformed.

I didn't say you were trying to join their team