Message from @isoboto

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2020-11-16 16:45:32 UTC  

he wanted a transition from "late stage capitalism" to state socialism

2020-11-16 16:45:54 UTC  

mhm i see there

2020-11-16 16:45:57 UTC  

if you want to look at state socialism in practice refer to the USSR, the Khmer Rouge, Maoist China, etc

2020-11-16 16:46:13 UTC  

ok then

2020-11-16 16:46:21 UTC  

but marxists aside

2020-11-16 16:46:35 UTC  

why are there so many memes that have COPE on them

2020-11-16 16:46:51 UTC  

because a lot of trumpoids can't accept the fact that they lost

2020-11-16 16:47:05 UTC  

hmmmm

2020-11-16 16:47:15 UTC  

Tbf its not set in stone

2020-11-16 16:47:27 UTC  

i know there is no clear winner

2020-11-16 16:47:30 UTC  

YET

2020-11-16 16:50:52 UTC  

Situational irony

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762720224268910632/777938753058242610/Screenshot_20201116-115027_Twitter.jpg

2020-11-16 16:51:47 UTC  

the mental gymnastics

2020-11-16 16:52:33 UTC  

wha?

2020-11-16 16:54:14 UTC  

Yes, I do.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762720224268910632/777939598537916416/Screenshot_20201116-115404_Twitter.jpg

2020-11-16 16:56:02 UTC  

No, this is Biden Supporters in Trump's America.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762720224268910632/777940052268417034/20201116_115543.jpg

2020-11-16 16:57:41 UTC  

except Rittenhouse, he good

2020-11-16 17:00:01 UTC  

i hate trump but that post is just fucking stupid

2020-11-16 17:00:31 UTC  

somehow it's all trump's fault for not sending in the troops to end all the rioting and shit but he's also orange hitler if he sends in the troops to end rioting

2020-11-16 17:09:29 UTC  

> God I hate this kid so much you don't even understand
@Rhyean i....agree. supporting Marxism is not "based". it's "stupid" and "wishful thinking"

2020-11-16 17:10:13 UTC  

> somehow it's all trump's fault for not sending in the troops to end all the rioting and shit but he's also orange hitler if he sends in the troops to end rioting
@米饭和面条 if trump sent in troops, it's dictatorship. if trump doesn't, he doesn't care. there's no way out

2020-11-16 17:10:13 UTC  

Trumps America where tolerant liberal movements cause chaos and destruction in the name of virtue signaling

2020-11-16 17:12:42 UTC  

> Trumps America where tolerant liberal movements cause chaos and destruction in the name of virtue signaling
@SmokyCopCar sometimes you gotta communicate your love the hard way, i guess

2020-11-16 17:15:25 UTC  

My school has a Black Lives Matter sign infront of the library (Representing a fist), whenever I pass it, I flip the birdie at it.

2020-11-16 17:16:21 UTC  

really the tolerant right, eh? -_-

2020-11-16 17:16:45 UTC  

My school became a Left base

2020-11-16 17:17:00 UTC  

they're all communists?

2020-11-16 17:17:12 UTC  

They endorse Communism, yes

2020-11-16 17:17:17 UTC  

they all want to establish a stateless, moneyless and classless society?

2020-11-16 17:17:29 UTC  

"Equity" more like starvation

2020-11-16 17:17:32 UTC  

...

2020-11-16 17:17:44 UTC  

That's Communism

2020-11-16 17:18:39 UTC  

> My school has a Black Lives Matter sign infront of the library (Representing a fist), whenever I pass it, I flip the birdie at it.
@JudgeAzule i graduated (thank god) and in canada nobody is renaming stuffs yet so our wokeness has yet to reach the peak 😬 matter of time, tho. some streets downtown were submitted to be change into BLM street

2020-11-16 17:19:03 UTC  

defining communism as exclusively equity is... Interesting at best and intellectually dishonest at worst

2020-11-16 17:25:51 UTC  

> they all want to establish a stateless, moneyless and classless society?
@米饭和面条 1. technically, you can't function in a stateless society -- you will still have a government controlling and distributing the stuff (because otherwise who will enforce the rules?). the government role may be reduced to something smaller into local leaders/government -- but historically that's not what happens. but. i digress.

2. secondly, you can't eliminate money or class. money is deemed a value of labour -- you'll have to go back pure on trading raw objects or pure labour, ie. a log of wood for some rice, or a log of wood for 1 hour of service. Which then brings the question of whether you can afford to trade it or provide the desirable goods/service. some simply do not have the ability to do that.

3. a classless society is also impossible. again, historically speaking -- greed is a real monster and states that operate under "communism" still have the richest people being so wealthy far beyond the lowly grunts. it also brings to mind, what separate the classes? and how do we help people advance from the lower class to the next?

2020-11-16 17:26:15 UTC  

aye

2020-11-16 17:26:42 UTC  

i've talked to a decent bit of commies and they say stateless means there is still a government but there just aren't any borders

2020-11-16 17:27:46 UTC  

> i've talked to a decent bit of commies and they say stateless means there is still a government but there just aren't any borders
@米饭和面条 ha. i've a marxist libertarian friend once and he boasted how marxism is a wide range of "ideas" and can be interpreting differently.

also, can you explain what do they mean by "no border"? no country border?

2020-11-16 17:28:03 UTC  

idk

2020-11-16 17:28:22 UTC  

yeah i think it's just no country borders

2020-11-16 17:28:23 UTC  

lmao shouldn't you have ask them to expand on that