Message from @Seance Unsean
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There is the original antifa, maybe circa 2019 then is there is the coopted antifa.
It has been perverse media manipulation recently.
If *you* think your side has seen media manipulation, then welcome to the club
Perhaps yes, perhaps no.
Although, when I used to be a liberal, I really thought I was fighting for the right cause. I wasn’t really trying to be evil.
Don’t worry, I’m not talking about liberal people, I’m talking about liberal politicians and leaders
Liberal people want the best from others I am certain
It's kind of interesting how far we have come from classical 60s-style liberalism to the dumpster fire we have today - and arguably around the late 60s with the radical feminists
Yeah that liberalism was way better
Modern liberalism is just... no thank you!
I still stand by what I said earlier. If you join a violent terrorist organization, you forfeit your life. That’s just my point of view. Those kids may just be misinformed, but isn’t every terrorist misinformed?
Arguably, a lot of modern liberalism isn't even liberalism by the standards of people in the 60s - evident by the fact that the ideology of MLK himself is now considered right-wing by the neo-liberals
I would argue you forfeit your life when you show that you are willing to take others' lives away because of what they believe in.
All is fair in love and war. If you go out and get violent, you cannot complain when people fight back. Attacking unprovoked is a whole other story
Wait what? How is it right-wing to believe in treating people by their content rather than by their skin?
What the hell?
Most political compass tests place it that way, yeah. Kind of sad really. But, when you consider intersectionality and affirmative action, it kind of makes sense
I tend to side with cornel west on the spectrum of political ideologies plaguing america atm, and his breakdown of the situation on the streets atm.
In a world of constructed images, meaning and depth holds little weight anymore.
Meme culture prevails.
So it’s progressive to be positively racist, wow.
I love this “progress”, woohoo. 😒
It seems like modern day "progressivism" is just "progressing" further left. Whereas, via the classical definition, it would just be the ideology of moving forward with science - which almost everybody agrees with
Or, not necessarily with science, but you get what I mean
Racism is bad, by the way. I’m sure some of our liberal friends still haven’t really understood that.
Yeah, I support the scientific and technological progress as long as it is good for us, humans. And as long as it doesn’t harm us in any way.
You can't discredit ideas by just saying they are "meme culture". Even if our ideas were just chanting memes, the memes are based on *actual holes in opponents' ideologies and ideas*, so you're still not discrediting anything.
Exactly
Hmmm
The memes are really a satirical take on the whole idea and situation
Look I like memes, and what that expression of ideas can achieve.
We just live is a hyper condensed ideological state, of share first think later, if not never.
Its a byproduct of meme culture
Humans are social creatures
We like to share things
To share information
If your going to condense and idea, at least make it accurate and minimalise the entropy.
There is an art form in that.
Truth and meaning must be upheld
Everything the left is accused of, the right can be also accused of, even (dare I say it) centralists can fall down that hole.
Its conformation bias 101
Don't look at self.
Blame the other.
Yeah we are all having confirmation bias Mr Obvious
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Preservation of self identity is a major problem