Exactly

Hmmm

The memes are really a satirical take on the whole idea and situation

Look I like memes, and what that expression of ideas can achieve.
We just live is a hyper condensed ideological state, of share first think later, if not never.

Its a byproduct of meme culture

Humans are social creatures

We like to share things

To share information

If your going to condense and idea, at least make it accurate and minimalise the entropy.

There is an art form in that.
Truth and meaning must be upheld

Everything the left is accused of, the right can be also accused of, even (dare I say it) centralists can fall down that hole.

Its conformation bias 101

Don't look at self.

Blame the other.

Yeah we are all having confirmation bias Mr Obvious

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Preservation of self identity is a major problem

True true.

If you stay ideologically consistent, you shouldn't fall down the hole the modern left has - which is why they get accused of this stuff

Even if you can accuse them of the same thing, it doesn’t necessarily make it true for both of them though.

Ah yeah but sadly the MSM is choking the shit of their brains.
They got a lot of external pressure being applied.

The left are the Patsy's used as a convenient tool for separation.
The right already did that to themselves.

Left vs right.
Convenient tool of oppression.
Divide and conquer

Play into their hand.

Left and right are not defined groups - they're handy tools, however, to categorise arguments

If somebody who said they were right wing came in here and started saying white supremacy rubbish (and I mean actual white supremacy, not the false stuff that gets thrown around) - I would tell them I disagreed with them

It's not playing into anybody's hands to divide up two polar different belief systems

Those hidden elites would disagree

The whole left versus right is not some categorization made by a bunch of political normie on the street today, it was well established since the French Revolution during their political debate trials. Those who sat on the left were known as the Jacobists who wanted radical equality and destroy tradition in France, those who sat on the right; were the Girondists who favor a more reformed protocol to the French royalty.

So they are kinda defined groups already by that historical context alone.

If you want to keep the traditional roles in society and conserve them as a means to better society as well as conserving the nuclear family as it has been; you are from the right. If you don't believe that and want to steer through mindless progressivism and do away with hierarchies, and want total egalitarianism enforced, you are of the left. Plain and simple.

Other positions may vary in different aspects under those two groups but the rules of thoughts are the same.

why anybody would want that?

Because it has kept civilizations strong, at least in certain social aspects, like the nuclear family.

And yes, anybody, including the Girondists back then.

I should have been more clear, I was meant to ask about left(mindless progressivism, away with hierarchies and the like)

Ah.

Well, to rephrase then, those who want that were people like Marx, Engels, Simon de Beauvoir and the Jacobins.

To be fair to the history in France, the royalty there wasn't exactly as good as it could be, so it was understandable the protests that happened, but Girondists wanted to reform the system and keep the hierarchies while allowing reasonable freedoms to people like blacks. But Jacobins were so radical and almost Marxist in tendencies that they decided bloodshed was the idea. To add insult to injury (to me personally), they executed the father of modern chemistry, for "treason" because he didn't agree with their political philosophy at the time.

So to the Girondists, and consequently, the whole right from then on; they wanted to conserve the social hierarchical order and work the reforms and changes within that order, never overturn it. The Jacobins were the ones who wanted to do away with that, and even non-French philosophers like Edmund Burke, a British, saw that what the Jacobins wanted was gonna end up making France worst than it was, and he was right during Robespierre's Reign of Terror.

re:Left ideas - but they could work only in 'ideal conditions' (spherical horses in vacuum so to speak) at best, not counting interferences and various deviations in real world