Message from @jtlan

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2020-12-05 00:50:48 UTC  

I do not need a vaccine

2020-12-05 00:50:55 UTC  

Same here

2020-12-05 00:51:09 UTC  

If you are vulnerable, take it

2020-12-05 00:51:19 UTC  

If not, are you a vegetable?

2020-12-05 00:51:54 UTC  

Besides, even if I was unhealthy, there are too many questions surrounding more important things like the election, so I'm not too confident in the vaccine.

2020-12-05 00:52:33 UTC  

make her define herd immunity first lol herd immunity is the minimum amount of people in the community develop their immunity against the disease right? so in theory, in 100 people, 99 had the vaccines and 1 doesn't, likelihood of the community having the herd immunity is high

2020-12-05 00:53:05 UTC  

Alrighty I'll say "Define herd immunity"

2020-12-05 00:53:35 UTC  

also i find it particularly funny she says the virus will not go away whatsoever. like, yes, we agree on that -- it will not go away or be "eradictated", with or without the vaccine

2020-12-05 00:53:36 UTC  

So what's the topic for today anti-vaxxing?

2020-12-05 00:53:55 UTC  

or rather: is vaccine necessary?

2020-12-05 00:56:39 UTC  

"Just for clarification, define herd immunity, how to achieve it, and if it is possible to be achieved without vaccination"

2020-12-05 00:56:55 UTC  

That good?

2020-12-05 00:57:24 UTC  
2020-12-05 00:57:30 UTC  

that looks good

2020-12-05 00:57:35 UTC  

Coolio

2020-12-05 00:58:03 UTC  

i'd also call her out on how she agrees with us (ie. you) that the virus will not go away or be "eradictated"

2020-12-05 00:59:20 UTC  

Is this still about herd immunity?

2020-12-05 01:00:29 UTC  

seems so. that would be how i answer this particular one, but there are other counter argument would be okay, too i think?

2020-12-05 01:00:32 UTC  

"I agree with you that the virus will never be eradicated, even with a vaccination, but should it be required? Vaccinations only *help* fight off a virus but it's not a *cure* "

2020-12-05 01:01:03 UTC  

vaccines prepare us for the disease, not "cure", yup

2020-12-05 01:01:55 UTC  

Yes, that's why people get vaccinated when they're not sick, in case they might catch a disease

2020-12-05 01:02:41 UTC  

It's a precaution but it doesn't guarantee you won't get it

2020-12-05 01:02:50 UTC  

yes. sometimes you still get it

2020-12-05 01:02:54 UTC  

it lowers the risks

2020-12-05 01:03:15 UTC  

Flu shots aren't mandatory, the flu comes back every year, and it mutates

2020-12-05 01:03:17 UTC  

that being said, allegedly the covid vaccines are a NEW form of vaccines that only came out from research in 2018

2020-12-05 01:03:19 UTC  

Some EU doctor are protesting the vaccine because they say it could cause women to become sterilized

2020-12-05 01:03:45 UTC  

it's RNA-vaccines -- unsure how it works compares to the traditional knowledge of vaccines

2020-12-05 01:04:14 UTC  

I understand why some don't trust the new vaccine - it's new technology

2020-12-05 01:05:00 UTC  

oh, yeah. those things can happen. fuck, the chinese government are sterilized the Uighurs. Bayers produced shots with HIV-blood in it knowingly, just for the profit

2020-12-05 01:05:37 UTC  

people should definitely trust it, the folks that are making these vaccines in the labs are likely far smarter than them, and if they are at risk, they should just get it so we can get out of this whole mess

2020-12-05 01:05:39 UTC  

also, i just recently discovered that all the companies working on covid vaccines are exempt from liabilities

2020-12-05 01:05:53 UTC  

Didn't Chris/Andrew Cuomo protest the vaccines because of Trump?

2020-12-05 01:05:57 UTC  

so if people die/suffer consequences from covid vaccines, nobody is being accountable

2020-12-05 01:06:09 UTC  

yes, plus a bunch of other people

2020-12-05 01:06:09 UTC  

Idk one of the Cuomos

2020-12-05 01:06:29 UTC  

chris. but andrew had went on record talking about it too

2020-12-05 01:07:24 UTC  

I'm sure she was in the same boat as "don't trust a quicky developed vaccine"

2020-12-05 01:07:38 UTC  

But now she seems flip flopped

2020-12-05 01:09:00 UTC  

I'm done getting vaccines for my life, had all of mine when I was a child, and now it is my choice to not get it

2020-12-05 01:09:53 UTC  

I’m likely going to get it when it comes out, because I dont think that my governor will let anyone go outside their house unless they get it