he belives that god created men and women and that god wants that. belief is subjective to persnoal opinion

and i do not believe that there is a deity out there

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You have a naive view of belief. If something is known to be true, you must necessarily believe it.

Imagine being so deep into a cult that you name your whole social life after it

it is not known to be true. your version of truth is faith

there are no different versions of truth.

Yes it is, you are suppressing the truth in unrighteousness.
Also your definition of faith is also naive. Faith properly understood means trust and loyalty.

Knowledge is true justified belief, but it is still a belief.

i see where u are coming from, the book of genesis is how u belive humans came to be. i belive in evolution. both are beliefs

Darwins evolution?

yea

Both versions of history recognize that clothing is not arbitrary. Evolutionists believe it was for survival and sexual selection; creationists believe that the created order has a purpose and that is to glorify God, create families stabilize societies. Clothing ain't arbitrary.

Either way, clothing has a purpose.

we live in a time now where survival is not the primary things on our life. unless you live in a third world country then it might be. but im going to assume you are american, survival is not ur primary focus

wdym failings of atheism

Survival? Like making money to survive?

atheism isnt a religon its just a lack of religon

Isn't staying alive all of our goals in life?

dont chrisitans put a large value on the after life

"Survival is not the primary things in our life."

Are you sure about that? Literally everything you do can be Darwinianly explained by survival. There is a field in psychology called evolutionary psychology. That field explains how even modern man's choices are traced by survival instinct. Just because you live in an appartment with an air conditioner does not mean you are devoid of survival instinct.

Yeah and?

@Smash Boy You explained it way better than I could have

Thomas Nagel would disagree.

i mean, i cant hang out with friends, i need to get food to survive or i cant watch this movie i dont have enough water in order to live. survival instict is natrual within us all and for good reason. ur body natrually says hey go drink water or go eat food. by survival i was last talkibg about i mean primitive survival, where your life is dedicated to getting food or finding shelter

thats how i interpret it

"Where your life is dedicated to finding food and shelter"
Literally all you said prior to that is precisely an attempt to find food and shelter.

And your interpretation is philosophically naive.

but It's like a decesion that we make invoulentarily

do you go hang out with your friends, or do you drink alchohol

False dichotomy.

I can do both.

Hang out and drink wine.

What? I'm a Paleocon Christian.

alchohol is inherently bad for survival

ouch

to both of us opp

"Inherently bad for survival"

All opiates are bad when consumed in excess. But it's more nuanced than that.

Are you talking about me?

I was responding to chleb.

I was rebutting his claims.