Isn't staying alive all of our goals in life?

dont chrisitans put a large value on the after life

"Survival is not the primary things in our life."

Are you sure about that? Literally everything you do can be Darwinianly explained by survival. There is a field in psychology called evolutionary psychology. That field explains how even modern man's choices are traced by survival instinct. Just because you live in an appartment with an air conditioner does not mean you are devoid of survival instinct.

Yeah and?

@Smash Boy You explained it way better than I could have

Thomas Nagel would disagree.

i mean, i cant hang out with friends, i need to get food to survive or i cant watch this movie i dont have enough water in order to live. survival instict is natrual within us all and for good reason. ur body natrually says hey go drink water or go eat food. by survival i was last talkibg about i mean primitive survival, where your life is dedicated to getting food or finding shelter

thats how i interpret it

"Where your life is dedicated to finding food and shelter"
Literally all you said prior to that is precisely an attempt to find food and shelter.

And your interpretation is philosophically naive.

but It's like a decesion that we make invoulentarily

do you go hang out with your friends, or do you drink alchohol

False dichotomy.

I can do both.

Hang out and drink wine.

What? I'm a Paleocon Christian.

alchohol is inherently bad for survival

ouch

to both of us opp

"Inherently bad for survival"

All opiates are bad when consumed in excess. But it's more nuanced than that.

Are you talking about me?

I was responding to chleb.

I was rebutting his claims.

i am saying if everything you do is to survive, drinking wine is hypocritcal of what u said

Bruh this is <#762720224268910632> channel.

i am a leftist

and they want me to meltdown

no we are having a civilized debate

with a leftist

sure

This channel is meant to showcase those meltdowns and not necessarily want them.

In evolutionary psychology, drinking wine can be liken to an animal seeking opiates to alleviate their pain as a survival coping mechanism.

You’re drinking wine calm down lol.

Well duh, I know that. I'm arguing that even under an evolutionary worldview, all your decisions will still be linked to your past which chleb seems to be unaware.

or drive a car

you're thinking of it too technically

what's going on here

yo bois I'm back

only for like 2 minutes

hi

@Truthinker Dude, do you know what a reductio ad absurdum is?