I can imagine what they'll say. Race traitor, homophobe (I'm gay so wtf would they be going at with such a dumb accusation), transphobe (I am transitioning and I know who I am, who the fuck are they to tell me who I should be).. well.. that's the reason us who are between high school-- post secondary should take a more.. analytical approach to making conversations happen.

@LunaLeMoon my understanding of the logic of wordahrrea as you put iis do exeagerate and simplify problems to get a point across, it is not mind broken, but merly a bad rehotric divice, it puts people on the defensive and hurts the argument for equality more than it helps iyt

@chaz well.. I put my point across to someone who is still in school. I wouldn't want to give them 2 years of university level political science when I can instead, give them a good idea that they can have their own mind with a made up word.

Tell me about it: I’m Mexican Guatemalan, 2nd gen, family started out dirt poor, but I’m not a feminist, I support our president, I’m Christian, I’m very conservative, and I love my country (USA). Nothing will ever change my mind about that

Listen.. I will tell you, your opinions may change over time. and that's ok. But my best advice is for you to refer to your values, all the while respecting your constitution.

I’ll definitely keep that in mind

Make your opinion, back it with substantial evidence, and move on. If anything convinces you otherwise, you're always free to change your mind.

@Error 404 lets put in some vocab, feminist: someone who attempts to create an equal enviroment for all, mandist: takes the ideals of feminism and pushes them to an extreem and calls anyone who disagrees with them sexist

important difference, feminism good, mandism bad

In that case, I would agree with @chaz. well put.

Fair enough. These modern day land whales have tarnished what was once a great achievement for women

and have slanderd the name of a still ongoing and constitional movement

heh.. I'm not going to go out of my way to offend them, but yes.. feminism has been overtaken by said *mandism* to a point where feminism has lost its original definition.

^my point exactly

But to be honest, I feel women should be left out of some job areas. And I’m saying this as one! 😅 for instance; firefighters. Men are (for the most part) stronger and can carry each other out of burning buildings. But what if a woman is with her male counterpart and he passes out? What is she going to do?

I would let them have those jobs. To honor equal opportunity of education, job, future, etc.

That was the point of feminism.

But I also find it completely unfair that men are more likely to die from fatal accidents at work than women :/

And yes I understand that; equal opportunity for everyone. I think if you’re able to perform equally as a man, then go right ahead. But if not, don’t because you’re not going to be able to help much

It's the product of decision making. Men are prone to make more risky decisions, take demanding, material focused jobs. Women in the other hand, generally go for people focused jobs, take fewer risks, aim more for comfort, although yes, hope for the same as men in terms of prosperity, etc.

Exactly.

I guess I’m more touchy about this because I have two brothers and was raised with a very masculine (but loving) father, so I suppose I see both sides of the equation

@StonerWithABoner so thats just wierd

Never saw married with children?

Same. Except I turned out to express more feminine qualities. I was mostly raised by my mother, most of my mannerisms are a result of being with her so much. Doesn’t stop me from being part of the family. It’s a personal venture and it took time to get to where I am.

Basiclly the main character al bundy starts a anti feminist organization called no maam

I agree, finding who you are is definitely an adventure, but in the end I hope it’ll be well worth it

Of course it would be. Otherwise, you would be unhappy in your future.

And hell, even if you haven't figured yourself out by the time you're in your 20s, that is still fine.

Thanks, I’m barely fourteen and I’m already searching 😂

this is honest;y so wholesome

I know right

It's a personal adventure. Don't settle in comfort just because it's just fine as is atm.

Find out what you want to do.. It'll pop up in your head, maybe you'll come across it and be inspired, stuff like that can have a pivotal effect on your route in life.

Well comfort is the enemy of progress, so I don’t think I’ll be doing much of that

Find comfort in progress. But don't let it make you settle.

Will do

Keep going until you find yourself in a place you've always wanted to be, or in a job you dreamed of having, or a family, or.. whatever it is that comes to mind in your future.

And even then, there's place for improvement...

Thank you. That was definitely something I’ve been needing to hear.