Yes, I agree.

You can say black lives matter and not want anything to do with the organization. Or you can say you are anti fascist and not be antifa. I can believe in equality for men and women and not be a feminist.

The left always plays these games with words

I am just so disapointed that groups mar the name of real peaceful protests, (the majority)

Biden's Laptop Matters!

ok, unrelated but ok, eleborate, send my some articles about it

Chaz

Articles are not always going to be there.

Unbiased articles at that

finding an article proves nothing to you, especially if you refuse to see things from a different angle. People have tried giving you proof from a different angle but you are adamant about articles. It is physically impossible for us to give you an article that proves our point, because there will always be another article that proves your point.

@chaz

so the only proof i have gotten are videos of people, who dont even claim to be antifa and definition of things antifa, if it does exist, fits into, and a twitter profile, that anyone can make.

What is ANTIFA to you?

so, if there feed is legit, and I went to it, all I have found are arguments for ideas and protesters action, a majority of which fall under law

Again I ask. What is ANTIFA to you?

it is, well, based in the evidenece given, and nothing else an twitter group that protects protesters and rants against proud boy and Qanon.

before we continue our debate. I want to know your standing. and I want you to know my standing. This leads to a better environment of debate

and from the evidence posed so far, the seem chill

and very maturely put but i must go eat ill come back later though

ok

Feed your ideas

> Feed your ideas
@Dr.Induction pardon?

also @chaz I will share my stance on ANTIFA and BLM while you are eating. Please pardon the ping.

Antifa is an idea... joe biden

From watching CNN and Fox and reading numerous articles. I have come to a personal conclusion that ANTIFA and BLM started out for the right cause, but are no longer there for the right cause. Once George Floyd's perpetrators were arrested; it should have all ended there. It continued and it has gotten beyond the point of racial equality and black lives matter. These ideas... organizations, whatever you think of them to be, are not what they say they are.

BLM protests have become derogatory to people of the white color

ANTIFA has become a group that insinuates violence

both lead to each other.

its never ANTIFA without BLM.

There is violence of all forms in protests and riots. Verbal and physical being the prominent ones.

What good is a group or idea, if the backing of said idea/organization... is to act like this. I for one would never want to be associated with BLM or ANTIFA, even if I was a liberal minded person (please note I have a more centrist POV). The actions from everyone has disgusted me. The deaths of innocent people disgusts me. The abuse our Officers recieve, the abuse innocent bystanders recieve, the abuse of other black people i see. No this idea/organization is not something good or just. It is an evil token of sin (or whatever you want to call it that means its bad) is not something that should be supported.

If you want to fight for equality. Fight for it. But do not, and I repeat, DO NOT threaten, abuse, harm other people because they don't agree, because they are a different color (e.g white in the case of BLM and ANTIFA), lie about what they are fighting for to get away with heinous acts of malevolence.

that is my thoughts on BLM and ANTIFA. I believe it to be both an organization and an idea. the basic idea shouldnt be ended, but the idea it is now and the organization should both be put out of their misery

basic idea = equality for all colors, etc., etc.

@chaz please ping me with your response. as I will be doing dishes and getting school work done so I wont be checking discord frequently

@Osha19 George Floyd's only perpetrator was himself. He died of drug overdose that he caused by gulping down all he had before he was arrested. That's why none of the cops involved were convicted for murder. That's also why on the autospy report it said he died of a condition that people who drug overdose go into during those situations. (I forgot the name, but I'm sure you could figure it out if you researched it). The only reason this story was different from the others was because he was a black man, a white cop was on his neck, and he was saying he couldn't breathe. At first I thought it was what some still believe to be the case still, murder, which it wasn't and never will be, but when the full story, (body cam, autospy report, police report of the day, etc.) came out, you get all the information, you get the conclusion that the judge of the case did as well.

Their biggest example is BS. When you see half the story, you don't understand it as the media always wants you to see it.

I did know about that. but for the sake of my argument I say it should have stopped at the police officers arrest @little hollow . Not their court ruling but just their arrest. I knew full well it was not the officers fault..

Ok

Just checking lol

"George Floyd killed himself. Derek Chauvin framed himself." is one way someone said it.