They honestly don't give a rats ass about anybody.

And in the end, all they're doing is taking the seriousness from real racism and making it less valid.

those people do not stand for america or the idea of BLM they are a disgrace and a slander to the good name of the hundreds of thousands of peaceful protesters

Well, let's say that is true. Isn't that the exact same thing they're doing to the police?

And white people?

It doesn't matter what the majority of people doing it mean to be doing. They might think they care or are doing anything for 'black lives', but they're ultimately being used as political tools in the marxist and communist agendas of its leaders

The leaders are avowed and trained Marxists.

I agreed with you up to you saying they are marxists, no they are criminals. Also blm is moving for equlity and justice the police, as an instition, in relation to people of African desent, have not.

nothing against white people, If you are working to make the world a more equal place amen

I agree that the system needs reform, but they want to defund and abolish the police.

The system itself is very sound. It's just the few bad cops like there are in every organization that make the big news.

What needs reform? Literally all the instances these people give for 'police brutality' are ones where the police don't follow their protocol.

Better training.

There are rules set for everyone, for police, and for those under the police. It's simply just if you follow the laws given to you by your authorities (whether you be a cop or a normal citizen), nothing will go wrong. And if it does, well, then it isn't the training or the police as a whole that are at fault. That and many other reasons such as the ones I pointed out before are the reason no good rational human being should support BLM

Yes, I agree.

You can say black lives matter and not want anything to do with the organization. Or you can say you are anti fascist and not be antifa. I can believe in equality for men and women and not be a feminist.

The left always plays these games with words

I am just so disapointed that groups mar the name of real peaceful protests, (the majority)

Biden's Laptop Matters!

ok, unrelated but ok, eleborate, send my some articles about it

Chaz

Articles are not always going to be there.

Unbiased articles at that

finding an article proves nothing to you, especially if you refuse to see things from a different angle. People have tried giving you proof from a different angle but you are adamant about articles. It is physically impossible for us to give you an article that proves our point, because there will always be another article that proves your point.

@chaz

so the only proof i have gotten are videos of people, who dont even claim to be antifa and definition of things antifa, if it does exist, fits into, and a twitter profile, that anyone can make.

What is ANTIFA to you?

so, if there feed is legit, and I went to it, all I have found are arguments for ideas and protesters action, a majority of which fall under law

Again I ask. What is ANTIFA to you?

it is, well, based in the evidenece given, and nothing else an twitter group that protects protesters and rants against proud boy and Qanon.

before we continue our debate. I want to know your standing. and I want you to know my standing. This leads to a better environment of debate

and from the evidence posed so far, the seem chill

and very maturely put but i must go eat ill come back later though

ok

Feed your ideas

> Feed your ideas
@Dr.Induction pardon?

also @chaz I will share my stance on ANTIFA and BLM while you are eating. Please pardon the ping.

Antifa is an idea... joe biden

From watching CNN and Fox and reading numerous articles. I have come to a personal conclusion that ANTIFA and BLM started out for the right cause, but are no longer there for the right cause. Once George Floyd's perpetrators were arrested; it should have all ended there. It continued and it has gotten beyond the point of racial equality and black lives matter. These ideas... organizations, whatever you think of them to be, are not what they say they are.

BLM protests have become derogatory to people of the white color

ANTIFA has become a group that insinuates violence