I'll debate anyone on anything else

same

i assume most of us here are against abortion?

i am pro life

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yeah abortion debates get me heated

anything else I laugh afterwards and have a drink with them

the whole discussion about it really doesnt sit with me well, theres a lot of back and forth stuff i see about it, but i think its murder despite anything.

like people were upset about the SCOTUS allowing religious employers to deny contraceptives but they don't seem to understand that contraceptives like Plan B and whatnots don't prevent fertilization they prevent implantation and religious people believe life begins at conception > fertilization

its murder for convenience

Soft bigotry

never mind what i said just then i thought about it and no abortion is justified no matter the circumstance

Pro-life libertarian here, which is rare to see

Playing politics with a human life is a no go for me

I ok with contraception that stops fertilization, but implantation is wrong. most ppl dont know the difference when it comes to plan b

exept when the mothers life is at risk

im a pro-life libertarian conservative atheist. killing babies is wrong.

there are babies who have survived as early as 20 weeks outside the womb, with help of course

If you fuck someone voluntarily, and you get pregnant, it's your fault. You are not entitled to kill someone for your mistake

> exept when the mothers life is at risk
@Smoothdoge02 by definition that is not an abortion

what do you mean

Maybe rape and incest cases are different but most abortions are the killing of a healthy human child

The only times that I would be okay with abortion is in the case of rape. With that said, I don't really know of any way to prevent that from being abused/taken advantage of.

yup

i heard that rape and incest abortions only make up like 2% of all abortions

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yeah, i agree with graham the only kind of abortion i support is if the mother's life is in danger, or maybe even if the child wouldnt be able to survive, would have some horrible deformity that would drastically reduce their quality of life, and with rape i think i can agree with abortions. some people may not agree, but thats how i feel about the topic.

an abortion by definition is the killing and removal of the embryo/ fetus. if the mothers life is at risk the killing is only a byproduct of saving the mothers life and isn't intentional

Rape and incest are very rare anyways

im a man but the way i see it if you carry a firearm with you as a woman and know how to use it your chances of rape go down

yeah, guns are the "great equalizer" of men and women

awww, the great equalizer.

physically speaking

we thought the exact same thing Meryl lmao

I'm a firm believer of "actions have consequences." That includes children being a consequence of sex. If you're gonna do the sex, you're responsible for those consequences.

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The sin of lust.......

my girlfriend and I were VERY careful in high school because we were afraid of what would happen if we werent lmao.

Even when I was younger, I knew the risks, and if I had gotten someone pregnant I would have done the best I could

If you are just fucking people for pleasure, and you think it is okay to kill your unborn child because you simply don't want it, that makes me physically sick

I dont understand the argument for abortion in cases of rape/incest. why do you punish the baby for thing others did?