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This is philosophical in nature so I'm treating this conversation as I would a debate.
@AnonRed I hope I'm not coming across as confrontational. That isn't the point of this exercise, which is how I view this.
For A) Welp, if something like that went to court, one of the first things asked is "Why did you do it?". And if the one being accused answers with "BLM is bad because [insert evidence of the violence going around because of the leaders/people involved with the movement], etc", then that could possibly make room for the one being accused to not just instantly be hit with a guilty verdict. For B) Yeah, not all "justified" actions are NOT crimes. I was just saying what I said for this kind of scenario. Other than that, if the protester was doing absolutely nothing violent/wrong to the one being accused, then attacking the protester served no purpose.
I also can't press the ENTER button without sending the message :'D
Feel free to answer in parts if it's easier. If you wanted to copy/paste from a word document after collecting your thoughts feel free. Thats the beauty of a tagging system.
Sure, it served no purpose, but is it a _hate crime_? The reason as to "why" the attack happened was never under review. If you feel the "why" is important then you can ask for that clarification. That is absolutely fair.
To me, in my proposition, it didn't seem necessary since I could rationalize that a _hate crime_ perpetrator sometimes has a reason in their mind why their action was good idea.
Additionally, if you want to strike your previous comment feel free to strike through or delete, if you want more time to think on it.
Ah, I don't think it was a "hate" crime, based on what certain people these days keep referring to it as. If a "hate" crime is ***insulting*** someone who has (unhealthy) radical-Left views on every little thing or is within a Liberal group of people (like LGBT or #MeToo, or Feminists, or Democrats or Antifa/BLM), then that's **not a crime**. If a "hate" crime is **attacking *violent* protesters** of any radical-Left movement, that is directly a danger to your safety, then that's **not a crime**. If a "hate" crime is attacking a person that did absolutely nothing at all but hold-up a sign in public that supports a (not-so-well-known-as-violent) movement, and said person only did a little hoo-haa chant while standing on a sidewalk, then that's not a "hate" crime, but just a **regular crime**.
There is always a reason why someone would attack someone else, but usually, attacking someone and hurting them is going to be seen as bad.
And if a *hate crime* is just called a "hate" crime because the person committing the crime literally ***hated *** who they were attacking, then, based on that, *yes* , it would be a *hate crime*, but there isn't really a need to put "hate" in front of the word "crime" otherwise, since a crime is just a crime.
Things look more active over here so I'll stay
I'm in ocala and I live in plant city
An hour or 2 away
@AnonRed A hate crime is defined as _"a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds."_
And since the BLM movement is represented by the following:
"
We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.
We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.
The call for Black lives to matter is a rallying cry for ALL Black lives striving for liberation."
Couldn't it be said that simply targeting anyone with BLM is an overt aggressive act against black Americans?
@Deleted User Sort of, getting ready to drive so I'll be off and on all day
Is t anon red the one who said ANTIFA is not technically a domestic terrorist org
I have no knowledge of that. Recommend going through the chat log. I posted a Philosophical question and he and I are discussing it.
Ok
You're more than welcome to comment and join in. I request you tag me if you need me to look at something. I get a notification. That way
It was more a reference to your pfp
I didnt even catch it. Yeah, it's because I was almost dead center of the political compass test, look up my post on that channel.
I'm technically lub right but my government views make me auth. But there are no questions in that
I need ww2 tank names
Go
Tiger II
Tiger, panzer,
Shit, abrams
Panzer just means tank
No
So r/technicallythrtruth
Nicknames
I dont know man
War pig
That's afgan
What was the 5 women that stole a russian tank and went on the killing spree
"Priest"
I got a distant cousin that still lives in germany I can prolly ask him