thats saying, lets just not fight the good fight

Thats saying, there is no dinstinctly american culture worth fighting for

that we arent a nation with a christian heritage

were just a collection of individuals

thats how you immediately lose the culture war

The good fight is within yourself. Within myself. The mirror

it's sad your pfp is so cool

I think the issue is you cannot force your values into other people. One can only try to be their best self

who said anything about forcing

I didnt

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction

people arent a science

we dont operate under laws of nature we have free will

But 'force' is

Treeev just assumed my argument is we need to force our values on others

which isnt true at all

I mean if you aren't respecting individual liberty and disagreeing then are you not forcing values upon someone else?

how am i not respecting individual liberty

Is there some middle ground?

Not you specifically dude in general

I said it before I'll say it again

we arent fighting a political war, we are fighting a culture war

politics is downstream of culture

we need to fight to change the culture, not enact legislation to force others to follow our beliefs

but to make the culture such that our laws are a natural reflection of the people

we need to fight the good fight in the culture

stand our ground

fight for the Christian principals this country was founded on

You don't think that culture can be effected by a 'culture war'?

not sure what you mean

im saying the culture itself is in a war

that we are losing badly

Yes.. that has effects beyond the scope of the war, that are circulated back into the war

Everything we're putting out into this world has some type of effect

your assumption is if we sway the culture one way, itll ultimately sway back another

that if we make governmental assertions, they will do the same

and the only solution is to cut off everyones access to making governmental assertions

Never understood that to be a libertarian pillar myself, but who knows what the kiddies are saying today? ?

no im just asking if thats your contention

Ah.. gotcha. .

@equal and opposite reaction statement