Message from @Jwolf
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but national identity, culture and pride isnt inherently wrong or evil
and embracing peoples various haritages isnt mutually exclusive to national culture and pride
All goes back to looking in the mirror. So many saying they have Jesus, yet nobody's at peace. Why? How can u ever build a strong society out of hollow individuals? You can't, and that's my point.
And i agree with you to an extent
but with a distinction as well
I think promoting the person, and personal growth is much more valuable than the individual, and individual growth
Call it what you like.. same thing to me
It's not
Person isn't an individual?
to be a person means to be someone with connections, social ties, that we aren't just ourselves but people with responsibilities to others
an individual is a human being in isolation, not that they dont have family or friends or community, but it is a disordered emphasis
bringing us back to christian american values
the country is built on families and communities, communities being built of families
the societal fabric is made up of families and the family structure
Is there some good discussion going on here?
the lefts attempt to deemphasize family and make public education take care of raising the kids is a clear example of the state trying to userp the role of the family in the culture and society
or the fact that blm Literally has in its manifesto that it desires to disrupt the traditional family system
That's just letting legalese get in your head.. English language has been butchered every which way for divisive argument
I think that the family unit is important but you have a very traditional view of it don’t you @Drift
The sentences are too long 😢
I think i see where ur going with that comment
we probably would best be served going to dm to discuss that further
it's a very deep rabbit hole
Clear, simple English. . Individual vs person is an immaterial distinction best left to lawyers
No, I am not here to disagree but we most likely have a disagreement. Especially with LGBT marriage.
Probably not the best to debate on here knowing that convo is going to end poorly
im advocating for personalism over utilitarianism as outlied by kerol wojtyla in his work "love and responsibility" @user_zero
thats the distinction im making
But I think it is good to see people still have traditional views
i still think we should dm
it's a worthwhile conversation
and as long as im wasting hours on the phone
thats better than memes by far
Well, how are we going to handle this? And how long would this take, I don’t really have the time for it
could just be over a few days
the great thing about texting as opposed to irl talking is u can just stop and come back
I think we could do it on here whenever we are both on as long as we are both civil which I can do.
I just prefer dm
And others would be able to see.
I myself would kind of like to see this discussion
It's not that im planning on attacking you 😂
I know