Message from @Simpnautica

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2020-10-28 00:32:49 UTC  

I believe the constitution doesn't contain the word democracy lol

2020-10-28 00:33:00 UTC  

So imagine if 51% of Americans lived in California and the other 49% lived in the rest of the country. Would it be fair for California to always pick the candidate, just because they have the most people?

2020-10-28 00:33:29 UTC  

That’s why they have the electoral college.

2020-10-28 00:33:58 UTC  

but state wise people don't get represented

2020-10-28 00:34:08 UTC  

i guess it's good

2020-10-28 00:34:10 UTC  

i mean

2020-10-28 00:34:49 UTC  

idk

2020-10-28 00:35:18 UTC  

so how much power does the president have?

2020-10-28 00:36:44 UTC  

> It is a system which prevents mob rule. That is why they have an electoral vote and a popular vote. If 51% of the people vote for someone, the 49% can still win. It protects the rights of the minority from the mob rule of the majority, that you would otherwise have to deal with in an absolute democracy.
@𝓓. 𝓒. but using the electoral vote couldn't they still have the majority of the states opress the minotrity?

2020-10-28 00:38:31 UTC  

Good question, actually. It’s certainly better than absolute democracy, but that’s a good topic for discussion.

2020-10-28 00:39:45 UTC  

I believe that the majority of the people of course need to have a say, but it also prevents them from ruling over the minority, so I believe it’s a good balance. It gives neither the majority nor the minority absolute power.

2020-10-28 00:40:10 UTC  

can the president do anything they want?

2020-10-28 00:40:15 UTC  

No

2020-10-28 00:40:34 UTC  

There is another type of voting called ranked voting

2020-10-28 00:40:37 UTC  

how much is ruled by him then

2020-10-28 00:40:45 UTC  

He’s the executive branch and either rejects or approves of laws.

2020-10-28 00:40:47 UTC  

But not too sure if it can work en mass

2020-10-28 00:40:54 UTC  

that's all he does?

2020-10-28 00:41:02 UTC  

Basically

2020-10-28 00:41:05 UTC  

Cali and a couple other states can still have mob rule

2020-10-28 00:41:34 UTC  

well wouldn't it be better if there were educated people who studied subjects and were the best at them and decides what goes through and what doesn't?

2020-10-28 00:41:51 UTC  

But who decides who is educated enough?

2020-10-28 00:41:56 UTC  

The people in power

2020-10-28 00:42:13 UTC  

by like idk being that best at that field

2020-10-28 00:42:35 UTC  

That wouldn’t work because of partisan interests.

2020-10-28 00:42:52 UTC  

it just seems weird that people who know nothing can decide on government policy no?

2020-10-28 00:43:09 UTC  

They will claim that their candidate is the most suited for the job. So just let the people vote who their president should be.

2020-10-28 00:44:20 UTC  

but like surely there is a yes and no answer to everything

2020-10-28 00:44:42 UTC  

that is backed up with reasoning instead of personal interests you know?

2020-10-28 00:45:30 UTC  

The people know what they want, so they choose the person who promises to do what they want.

2020-10-28 00:46:08 UTC  

but people are selfish and only vote for what they think is best for them but without really knowing truly why

2020-10-28 00:46:12 UTC  

that seems flawed

2020-10-28 00:46:39 UTC  

So the people shouldn’t have a say in who is gonna represent them?

2020-10-28 00:47:03 UTC  

i think the people should identify problems but not be the ones to solve them

2020-10-28 00:47:21 UTC  

I don’t get the point you’re making.

2020-10-28 00:48:04 UTC  

my point is there are conservatives vs liberals but surely instead of people being so divided there is a correct answer and reason why

2020-10-28 00:48:29 UTC  

But who decides what the correct answer is?

2020-10-28 00:48:50 UTC  

the people who have studied how to solve these problems i feel like

2020-10-28 00:49:23 UTC  

And who decides who is the most educated? The people in power. Back to my original point.

2020-10-28 00:49:35 UTC  

It wouldn’t work.

2020-10-28 00:49:53 UTC  

people who are best in their field and identified without corruption