Message from @diarkia124

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2020-10-28 00:21:22 UTC  

in voting

2020-10-28 00:22:55 UTC  

By population. California is the most populated state and has 55 electoral points. Other less populated states bring less points.

2020-10-28 00:23:31 UTC  

so it is by population?

2020-10-28 00:23:41 UTC  

Yes but with one caveat

2020-10-28 00:24:05 UTC  

what is a cavecat

2020-10-28 00:24:19 UTC  

Electoral votes are based on members of congress with each state. Each state has two senators and at least one representative. Every state gets at least 3

2020-10-28 00:24:28 UTC  

DC is also given 3 electoral votes

2020-10-28 00:24:58 UTC  

That's why smaller states have slightly higher electoral votes per capita

2020-10-28 00:25:20 UTC  

so people aren't voting for the president they are voting for a representative which reflects the president?

2020-10-28 00:25:26 UTC  

idfk

2020-10-28 00:25:35 UTC  

Yes

2020-10-28 00:25:39 UTC  

oh ok

2020-10-28 00:25:42 UTC  

In 48 states, it's winner take all

2020-10-28 00:26:06 UTC  

should there not be a odd number of states in case it is even?

2020-10-28 00:26:10 UTC  

i mean

2020-10-28 00:26:16 UTC  

like 50 50

2020-10-28 00:26:27 UTC  

So if Trump wins Texas by 1 vote, he gets all 38 of the electoral votes

2020-10-28 00:27:24 UTC  

This should explain it nicely

2020-10-28 00:29:18 UTC  

this seems like a bad system honestly

2020-10-28 00:30:08 UTC  

imo i personality don't see much a use for the system these days

2020-10-28 00:30:22 UTC  

It is a system which prevents mob rule. That is why they have an electoral vote and a popular vote. If 51% of the people vote for someone, the 49% can still win. It protects the rights of the minority from the mob rule of the majority, that you would otherwise have to deal with in an absolute democracy.

2020-10-28 00:31:01 UTC  

wait how i thought all votes when no matter what

2020-10-28 00:31:07 UTC  

That’s why the United States are a Constitutional Republic, and not a Democracy.

2020-10-28 00:31:23 UTC  

so i have been lied to all this time

2020-10-28 00:32:49 UTC  

I believe the constitution doesn't contain the word democracy lol

2020-10-28 00:33:00 UTC  

So imagine if 51% of Americans lived in California and the other 49% lived in the rest of the country. Would it be fair for California to always pick the candidate, just because they have the most people?

2020-10-28 00:33:29 UTC  

That’s why they have the electoral college.

2020-10-28 00:33:58 UTC  

but state wise people don't get represented

2020-10-28 00:34:08 UTC  

i guess it's good

2020-10-28 00:34:10 UTC  

i mean

2020-10-28 00:34:49 UTC  

idk

2020-10-28 00:35:18 UTC  

so how much power does the president have?

2020-10-28 00:36:44 UTC  

> It is a system which prevents mob rule. That is why they have an electoral vote and a popular vote. If 51% of the people vote for someone, the 49% can still win. It protects the rights of the minority from the mob rule of the majority, that you would otherwise have to deal with in an absolute democracy.
@𝓓. 𝓒. but using the electoral vote couldn't they still have the majority of the states opress the minotrity?

2020-10-28 00:38:31 UTC  

Good question, actually. It’s certainly better than absolute democracy, but that’s a good topic for discussion.

2020-10-28 00:39:45 UTC  

I believe that the majority of the people of course need to have a say, but it also prevents them from ruling over the minority, so I believe it’s a good balance. It gives neither the majority nor the minority absolute power.

2020-10-28 00:40:10 UTC  

can the president do anything they want?

2020-10-28 00:40:15 UTC  

No

2020-10-28 00:40:34 UTC  

There is another type of voting called ranked voting

2020-10-28 00:40:37 UTC  

how much is ruled by him then

2020-10-28 00:40:45 UTC  

He’s the executive branch and either rejects or approves of laws.