astrology is making up stuff about people's life because the stars say so, no?

Now I’m not saying you can read your chart and know what’ll happen in the next week

Not quite, that’s just the horoscopes side of it

Perhaps, but my real point is like "faith" in the abstract often these folks mock other's faith, while believing in these generic types of nonsense is all

Oh I definitely agree

But you might be right I mean who knows what if it is all the same underlying deity ?

If you believe in astrology and especially horoscopes you shouldn’t be laughing at anyone else’s religion lol

That’s my theory, and that the underlying deity is in fact the universe itself

So who is to say that the stars don’t tell you something based on positioning at birth

Not saying you can tell the future

I mean I can because I am amazing but ya you mortals even with your magick have no chance

Lmao

I can respect that. I'm really interested in astronomy so when I hear about horoscopes and astrology in that form, I get kinda triggered. My apologies

Oh that’s completely understandable

Yeah I mean open forum ya know, can disagree on nuances

Definitely lol

I mean my major concern of the "world today" is not the nuance it's the core beliefs

I love both astronomy and astrology

Yes agreed

like imo individual freedom > any other bs reason you can think of

and that used to be pretty well shared

agreed

Oh definitely, along w some good core values like not murdering each other over disagreements and consent being a must lol

now the dirty trick is like "Oh yeah not if you are a bigot or racist etc" then you dont' have rights

There we go perfect lol

and it *sounds* like, logical right like nazis = bad fine. but then it's like who gets to define who the bad guys are?

and what if the guy defining bad guys -- becomes a bad guy?

Yup exactly

Then you're back in 1930s

and people are bad because you're told they're bad

So we put freedom above all, and then not murdering and other positive values up there too

Right well yeah you're not free to murder others lol

Exactly lol

Because that would go against their freedom

Their freedom to live

I think the values that the 10 commandments state are pretty good today. don't cheat, be nice, no murder etc.

Oh for sure

Yeah I agree, they’re a pretty good start for sure

obv other religions had similar writing but the commandments are most well known

Yup

I mean I fully believe like without "religion" modern faith if you will -- the morality of individual worth would not exist