yeah

I see, I have to research why, that’s kind of deep

It is intuitive

Well on the surface it makes sense

@ManOWar explain

Religion is one of the main factors promoting traditional families

Right, but wouldn’t you think that smart people even if they had no religion would have babies, because those who reproduce win?

The irreligious lack that external drive. So they have fewer kids would be my guess

Ah I see

the smarter people generally did have kids

But this has been reversed in the past 100 years

Feminism?

Over thousands of years yes smarter people did

Not just feminism

Explain

it has been a lot of things

Welfare, feminism, sex education, wages, religion

education in general too

its a complex explanation. I'd rather just point you to Stefan Molyneux

You mean education of women, men failing in education, or both? Or neither

Poor education doctrine is what I mean

I don't mean education of women

Ah

the effects of education depend on its quality

and its doctrine

ya dig

I’ve heard that the school system has lowered its standards, someone was saying in the past it was either middle schoolers or high schoolers were reading college books I think I heard

That is true

The reason for that is complex as well

I see deep problems

I recommend doing your own reading if you're interested

Its a really complicated subject

You can kind of boil it down though

I understand

It is sad like most things

But it helps you understand how we got here

Yes I must do more research into the history, I know it’s likely nothing will change, because that would take violent force, but it would be interesting to know how it started, I heard feminism was started by rich old ladies, and some rich families helped fund it too, even the ci a I heard, how can you defeat that? lol

I've done my own research into feminism actually

Quite a lot

Simplified version?

Its not an enemy and its not something you can beat