@Dstar_Destroyer oh Im complaining? Yet i just solved the problem woth one single statement. And you even quoted it. Please think a bit here, yes?

I couldn't be in the voice chat. Been drinking, no one wants that 😂

No no, I'm kust saying you are calling out problems in government and I wanted to see if you had solutions, that is all

@Ironman Based as fuck

i've been a conservative since 2015 as well. Not so much because my views changed as liberals veered so far left that I'm left in the conservative column with my once mainstream left beliefs

@Deplorable Me Same. They just went a bit too far left.

The solution is to remove the lobbyists. Always has been, always will be. Do that and George Soros will be panhandling next to Pelosi

but I've always been pro-life, even in my deepest state of being liberal

The left went full blown potato, they are zombies. Can't argue with them far gone souls anymorr

I was always conservative and wanted bush and McCain to win when they both ran (I was too young when bush ran) but the 2016 election cycle really got me into politics

When did the dems start shifting to the far left?

ever since I was a child I saw abortion as murder

The pendulum is swinging back

Well I'm glad that you have a solution, as compared to many others that just simply say there is a problem but have no ideas on how to solve it

Bush was a charming idiot and McCain, IMO was a war mongering pos

I wasnt political at all until Trump started campaigning, and i didnt understand much about anything that was going on, just that he was getting massive amounts of hate, so i decided i wanted to know what was going on, started looking into things, and became VERY hardcore conservative for a while, im still very conservative, but im not as hardcore or uppity about it.

Guys shit’s not lookin good right now

I was very vocal about my beliefs when I was in middle school and high school and at one point 3 teachers told me I wasn’t allowed to talk about politics in their classroom at all

@Speshel Pandaz during the Obama era

Said nothing to the liberals though

yeah I think a lot of people started getting political in 2016

126k deaths is bullshit. a lot of those are still falsely attributed

I wasn't Political until the Media started to bash on him and that got me thinking. They were so critical of him but let Hillary off the hook so easily. It was fishy.

They already wasn't far from the tipping edge, maybe it was during Clinton and gore?

What do we do if this election is stolen from the people?

Civil war is looking likely

@Dstar_Destroyer since politicians are bought and paid for long before they even get a seat, we need to ask, "by whom?". Its the lobbyists. They pay for the laws, policies, and even the campaigns.

I was a bernie bro in 2015, then they screwed him over and I refused to vote for hillary, I was going to sit it out. Then one night I happened across an interview with Ivanka (sooooo pretty) and as I listened I realized that if President Trump raised this woman there's NO way he's as bad as they claim.

Internet played a huge part I think

And here I am.

@MrAconite they are rioting aren't they? Feed them their own dessert?

@MrAconite I have faith in the system just like 2016. We did fine back then, it should be fine this time around but go out and Vote. You can always track your vote.

Term limits help, but its just a bandaid

Don't be scared of the polls, the silent majority will step up

Everyone in my high school is left wing

@ReneAensland dude same but trying to talk to my friends these days is impossible. These people can be fed anything and they just, believe it

People do bad things for money

I agree with what you are saying Ironman, lobbyists are the main issue within government

@MrAconite Agreed.

We are so far into this shithole because of a narrative