It’s just a natural thing, that’s what I was attracted to

I never had a choice, this is just how I ended up developing.

again, im not trying to belligerently argue against your beliefs, but thats how some gay people feel

its always good to try to put yourself in other's shoes to understand their view, right?

Well I respect their opinion

I have no problem accepting that in some extremely rare cases people are not ideologically aligned to their biology, but is there no element of choice when being anything other than straight is considered "progressive" and so people branch off into multiple variations of weirdness?
In the 1960s being bi was cool and became common.

Even when I was 4 I remember having memories of gender dysphoria and those are my most prominent.

If you talk to some gay people some believe they were born that way and if you talk to their family members they feel the same way.

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And they knew at a very early age

Sexuality is just a confusing subject

okay, @BryanH76 you missed some of the earlier part of the discussion, let me clear this up

we agreed that children arent born with sexuality

so they arent born straight or gay

You do not know you are gay when you are not sexual.

thats what all three of us here agreed on, Me, Speshel, Rational.

I have known people who swore they were "born gay" who changed for one reason or another.

Sexuality is the biological differences between the 2 sexes, gender is the prescribed role to symbolize this

Up until some magic age?

well, we think when you undergo puberty and start developing attraction is when you start having a sexuality

not some "magic age"

12 is when you start feeling sexual attraction or around that age

lets humor the basis for the discussion, and refrain from getting belligerent about other opinions, alright? im not accusing you, just want to make sure this stays calm and polite.

So when my 1st grader says a girl on the bus is hot he’s just confused because he hasn’t hit puberty? Sorry, I like to argue.

hmm

idk, thats a good example

People’s minds work differently

There is no magical age. Far out. I assume all of us here were people who were born as infants and grew up. We are either introduced to sexuality at a young age, or discover it ourselves in a natural way - usually these days it is the former. There is no set age for it though.

I don’t have any emotions on this. I’m a 44 year old happily married man with young kids. I am just matter of fact.

gotcha, again, i think puberty and OR when you start realizing you have an attraction is when you develop your sexuality

And I do have a gay relative.

Children mimic adult behaviour.

we all know cases of little kids being sweet or something like that, and having those pretend girlfriend boyfriends in kindergarten and stuff

youre a parent, Bryan, im more than certain you understand exactly what i mean.

Sorry took me awhile to find the meme after the convo ended lol

I’m not a parent so I don’t know much about kids psychology

@Wardog sup bro

NeoGhost, just for reference (this isnt a warning, just want to prevent future trouble or arguments) lest keep memes in the meme channels, im not going to give you shit about that one since its kind of related, but just to avoid issues in the future, okay? 😄

Yeah, some kids may make you wonder if they are. What about 30 years ago? Nobody would have chosen to be gay. It wasn’t “cool” and honestly was probably a shitty life. Now it’s different.

Yeah I figured it was related, you remember me right?