yeah I would generally agree with that

the radicals are taking over and they are doing jack shit

I wouldn't mind a serious libertarian candidate to thin out the hyperpartisanship of the senate and house

I mean, the moderate are awful because they are getting rolled over, but the radicals are the ones that are steamrolling. It's like asking who is worse, the drunk pedestrian or the high driver. The drunk pedestrian is stumbling into the rode, drunk off their ass, but the high driver shouldn't be there in the first place.

The reason why I try to support libertarianism is because it can appeal to social conservatives and socially liberal people because it supports both social views as long as they do not interfere with each other

@Froski in the words of Robert California "The falacy is that it is up to the steamroller. Its up to the object whether it will be rolled over or not."

I mean, I disagree with that quote. Although here, the democrats could stand up for themselves, most of them have been in office forever and have been ineffective the entire time. If they started being effective now, then they'd be voted out.

I personally am more of a social conservative and I support my religious beliefs and ideas, I also am fine with socially liberal people doing what they want as long as it doesn't affect me or anyone else. I think this idea could help bring in more support for the right from people with varying social views

@AWOIII I agree conservatives could benefit from more libertarianism thats what is happening now i beleive with Trump

@Froski I disagree there are many Democrats registered who are voting republican because the dems are ineffective

I think that the key is that the right should really be pushing social libertarian views to appeal to more people

Libertarianists are helping to disband the atf and other unconstitutional gun laws. Something that trump isn't a big supporter of

My take

@Froski only lefty infested shitholes vote for do nothing dems. I beleive if incumbents tried to be better moderates would come back to the polls

I get that. But, the Democrats like Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Charles Schumer, and Maxine Waters are all being rolled over by the radicals.

But they are all do-nothing and ineffective anyhow.

I think there are some areas where trump is being a bit much like that time where he signed to ban bump stocks

this is why I am kind of skeptical with trump

@Kaiser good take and I agree there's always room for improvement of ones views i wouldnt say disband the ATF but I would say roll back 90% of gun regulations

tbh I would support-fully automatic firearms for the civilian market

@AWOIII same

All gun laws are infringements

@AWOIII bump stocks im on the fence about i understand the concern but no good person is going to shoot a school

really annoying we can't buy guns with the fun switch

Atf does regulate other things such as alcohol and tobacco, but their presence in gun laws is way too prominent

Interesting how the ATF broke the first gun law

They broke the 2a

BRUHS

@Froski true but there are still blue dogs in the house who are being rolled over who can still have some semblance of progress if they straightened out

@Kaiser would you support getting them out of guna and tobacco?

isnt there this one law that says you can buy full-auto if it is manufactured before 86

Yeah

Yeah. I think there are just issues throughout the democrat moderates and radicals.

Yes

In certain states there's a specific lisence for them too

And explosives

You'll have to get a commercial license to sell guns

then buy another one to manufacture them for yourself

@Froski there definitely are but Pelosi has crossed the line of becoming a radical her and schiff and schumer are no longer moderates

Or just don't tell the government jack

True.