If someone murders someone, do you seek justice? how about if they murder two people? how about if the murder 2,974?

like I said you only cared about the deaths in 9/11 how about the retaliation in Iraq? not everyone there is a terrorist they died anyways.

A man chooses what he does what his life, some men, choose to defend themselves when attacked. Some men, choose to defend their country when attacked. And some men, choose to die for their country.

then you understand when Germany became pro, Hitler? since they chose to not be enslaved by the treaty?

Also, if 2,974 murders aren't enough, and the extra deaths of thousands of people because of the attack, how about the attempted murder of an additional 13,000-15,000 people. If that isn't a just cause for a war, please do tell me what is.

You mean the Treaty of Versailles? The Treaty from WWI that lead to WWII because it left Germany in an unfavorable position. You know, something about the end of WWII and not just leaving Germany be afterwards makes me think they remembered the Treaty at the end of WWII.

I guess knowing history and learning from it really pays off. Thanks for making the argument for us!

Thankyou for backing me up, I haven't learnt much about nazi germany, other than the small amount that was taught in school 👍

No problem.

hahahaha!

as you said, I'm a "boy", regardless of the fact that I'm a legal adult, you shouldn't expect me to know everything

> I guess knowing history and learning from it really pays off. Thanks for making the argument for us!
@Froski now apply this smugness in the case of 9/11

i rest my case. :D

9/11 we were attacked by a terrorist organization. I guess Al-Qaueda learned their lesson because we haven't had anybody attack us in America for 19 years.

that's the end?

i guess you skip the bombing and war and shif.

i mean the war in iraq was a bit stupid

driven by neo-cons

Wars are not great. By no means do I think war is a great thing, however, it shows that when a country decides to attack the United States, we don't tuck our tails, we will retaliate.

And guess what, wars happen and we are now trying to leave, while still remembering what happened to cause it

nah i just pointed out how smug you were in the case of germans but tends to skip what happened after 9/11

True

guess selective ideals and shit.

Not really

Fine, call me smug, you've failed to acknowledge the actual argument.

Hitler saw no other way to fix Germany, other then war and expansion since the treaty of Versailles screwed them over. So they were justified in retaliating, its what happened after when,the expansion became monumental that the other countries had to try to stop, honestly America wasn't going to physically join until they were bombed.

remembering history is pointless?

That's what you're saying.

History is very important to remember

Those who do not, will never see the signs of the history repeating

oh SELECTIVE history is important.

got it.

:)

No, all history is important.

but when asked you beat around the bush before saying "oh yeah we killed hundred of thousand innocent people after 9/11"

Well, yes history is written by the victor, but everyone should strive to see the whole truth of what reslly happened, truly remembering history

Dude, I don't think anyone here thinks the middle eastern wars were right, but they happened and we will have to remember why we started them, and then get out now

Since we are trying to get out

Samfrat I'm woth you on that, these people are so fed up with going against what they say its abhorrent

Double standards, hopefully enough people are seeing what happening and who is causing it, I'll give you a hint, it ain't Trump

hope trump successfully creates term limits in his second term 👍
and if not, get another republican in office in 2024, then 2028, etc, until it happens