thats how capitalism works

does it not?

@TheBlackRedneck And how much did it cost to develope them? How much has the price dropped since they first came out?

That’s the thing, regulation will be hard and controversial no matter what it was. But having some time limits, such as a five-year patent or something like that I think could be a compromise for both sides maybe

yea i agree the epipen thing is a major problem, but it'd be utter chaos if you got rid of patents

make medicine a few percent more than the cost to make

The reason new drugs cost so much when they first come out is to cover the cost that it took to RnD them

@Kaladin thats the beauty of patents, they can expire

@kyzercube In the country of Mylan, epipens only cost 30 dollars to make

But how much time @ThiccSpicyGenderRevealParty ?

Generics are offered when those debts are paid.

mylan isnt a country

wut

didn't trump start buying stuff from canada because american people sell for too high

@TheBlackRedneck And how much can the country of Mylan afford without breaking it?

My bad

Mylan is a company

i believe

FFS

yes it is, i was super confused

Yes they are

the reality is we have no real data about the costs of manufacturing and the RnD that went into the Epipen

But seriously, when a drug is less expensive in a poor country, it's because ... well, they're poor

All im saying is that if they removed the patent on the epipen someone will make a more affordable and better option in my opinion

buy from the poor make them rich

ehehe

@Kaladin honestly, the time itself depends on the company filing said patent although i assume the absolute max should be between 5 to 10 years

The orginial epipen used to cost 100 bucks

but the company said we want more money

they got what they wanted

@GotatoChi People my age know at LEAST one person that would make Xanax trips to Mexico in the 80s

because they have 0 competition

yea but if you remove the patent you're talking about using government influence to steal someone's intellectual property

@TheBlackRedneck wouldn't every thing from before seem cheaper due to inflation though?

thats an **extremely** slippery slope

Yes many things go into pricing. Regulations, taxes, production costs, acquisition of material cost etc.

you should be able to have a patent and be the only ones to sell something but if it is something that directly saves peoples lives they should have a law saying you can't sell for much more than cost of production

i would certainly never bother innovating in America if I knew the government could(and would if they deemed it necessary) confiscate my creation for the 'greater good'

aka socialism

@NorseWarrior You're correct. It's not some simple thing.

Listen, I definitely think that you couldn’t just get rid of patents. But I have to do a lot more research before I came to a conclusive decision on my own.