they are still humans

they just don't have the same rights anymore

i do believe there is a humane way to deal with convicts and criminals

right to a lawyer or cruel and unusually punishment

geneva convention is a document i have ratified

human rights are rights; citizen rights are privileges.

i would not tolerate torture or inhumane treatment

exactly

there are basic human rights

and those should always be upheld

ortherwise you guys wouldn't be humans 🙂

you'd be... monsters 🙂

I could Identify as an attack helicopter

damn... that's cliché

you don't know

not enough love for other helis

what about the chinook bro?

> and those should always be upheld
@Aletro
Should they, though? Life and liberty are human rights, yet prisoners are denied liberty and capital punishment is the deprivation of life.

double rotor

@Arkayde i do believe in capital punishment

so do with that whatever you will: the forefathers did too

I believe in it as well. I'm just pointing out that even human rights are conditional.

they are not

not if you believe they are inherently "right" in the literal sense

The condition of human rights is the upholding of human responsibilities. The condition of citizen rights is the upholding of citizen responsibilities.

right in this context does not mean "correct"

but I do believe the death is warranted when it is

that is just

and it suffice me

I'm not entirely convinced the absence of capital punishment would be entirely more "just" "correct" or even "right"

the absence of capital punishment scares me more than the fact is exists

A disregard for the life of another forfeits one's right to life.

essentially

in so many words

It is my belief that it is a mutually deterring measure that time tested: might not be perfect but it's the most brutal deterrent we got

What are we talking about?

we were talking about the legitimacy of capital punishment i suppose

but it's morbid and morose, surely a conversation killer 🙂

Then I agree with Arkayde

Oh boy what'd I miss

We were in agreeance on that subject. The baseline conversation was on the equal application of rights.