You guys like snap chat.

Eric Swawell, More like Eric Swallow

A mathematician once made a theory that if you believe in God and he isn't real you lose nothing, but if he is real and you don't believe in God you lose something.

Trying to derive morals from nature is like to get gold from lead.

So this is where I'm at a point that I don't feel comfortable discussing this in a general chat, not because I am not up for it, but I don't want to be put in a bin with 'those atheists,' that just argue because they are ideological militants. I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of how I view the world though and I'd be happy to talk more in dms.

That was Loui Pascal, called Pascal's wager

depending on where it takes place that may also end badly

Well obviously the gay lefty will be thrown off the building, cause Islam

If you want to dive deeper like you did when you got red piled, just get the book the End of Reason

why does the zedcast video not work

Wouldn’t be bacon. Would be fish.

Bacon is made from ham

Or pig

Debating is not typically helpful. The only helpful thing it can do is show where you need to learn something.

what are yall talking abt now

how bad u smell

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I just joined

Well again I feel like my points have been mischaracterized to some extent (not saying you did it on purpose you seem really cool) just I generally dislike being that

If most of our ideals are imaginary and we believe in them, are they not real in our own perspective?

Bet you don't even take a shower everyday

ok

Alr

I also didn't mean to sound like I was calling for a debate. I simply think I have failed to explain my points and they would need to be laid out in a different fashion to be understood properly

My best friend is a mormon and we've had a lot of verrrry long discussions on where we come from. . .

The concept of thought isn’t real. You can’t measure thought. ~~electrical activity in brain maybe~~

lol

It’s hypocrisy

The entire thing you guys are debating is based entirely on world views which if the people debating have different ones they won’t be able to come to agreement. Just take the ken ham vs bill nye debate. It ended without an agreement because of worldview not because of the lack of good examples

I am of the belief that Islam needs reform

I mean it’s literally one of the only religions which hasn’t yet

But I doubt that it will ever happen

If a religion needs reform then you no longer have a religion. A religion has to have a firm belief in something that is unchanging

But don’t listen to me i’m a pessimist

i thought yo uwere a DJ

Well. Actually DJ stands for David James ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lol

you aren't a David James?

hello noob

Yeah our basis of where our conclusions are drawn from are fundamentally different, which makes it hard for two people to talk of such things sometimes. Like, I've had plenty of time/friends that are deeply religious, and we have had discussions (not debates) to understand each other better. And I think I generally understand where the religion worldview comes from, and find it interesting. Again, another reason why I think 'debating' creation is rather pointless.

~~Has existential crisis~~

to find out you aren't who you thought you were