Message from @HMAB
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an Art History student doesnt possess every piece of art they study? They study it, them studying it is what keeps it alive after its destroyed
The books with the photos are what keeps it alive
The Weimar Republic is destroyed yet I still studied that at college...
But only if they arent destroyed too
What are they going to do? Replicate it all? Either the art exists somewhere and survives it in some way, or it doesn’t exist and disappears after a generation.
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That is a massive difference
In what way?
Both are history
Because lemme tell you how I havent the talent to recreate the garden of earthly delights tryptich
You guys win the nerdiest internet argument I've seen all month award good work
One is a period government the other is a piece of culture
Why is it more valuable to study one over the other
You want to compare a painting or a book to a massive nation that existed for a decade, governing a ton of people, having an impact on the economy and governments of other nations
We've probably already lost 99% of all the art ever created
Knowing about the downfall of the Weimar republic shows you what to avoid, knowing about the Mona Lisa is a fun bit of reading, but not particularly useful.
The.. useful art is psychological in nature
Going back full circle
The black death. Dancing skeletons
It tells you more about the era and the people than the remaining writings
Knowing the art, literature and culture of the world allows us to understand humanity and the world through history
The destruction of any statue, be it left or right, be it hateful or heroic, is catastrophic. They should be kept in a museum, and shown as part of history.
And those things help us to know how people felt during the plague, and other things, but they don’t help us to know things like what decisions were being made, who exactly was most affected, where it came from.
Agreed
Unless you know where the art originated.
But knowing the empires, influential people, and important points in history is more practical
<a:1717_Crab_Rave:726883571033440366> history forgotten is bound to be relived
If you only want to know a single piece of history sure @VulpesVulpes
Then again, I could have gotten a dual degree in history with 2 more classes but i was so done with liberal teachers by then 😂
But if you want a contextual understand of a period and people definitely look at the art and culture of the time
History should be presented objectively and from the context of that era, not ideologically.
Agreed. And if it has to be with an ideological bent, that bent should be explained
There is no such thing as objective history
Like, it was written by this dude, who won
So take it with a grain of salt
Well, history is written by winners, so yeah.
I’d argue that the belief in objective history is worse than not having history at all
It devalues the other side and forgets that what you’re being told may not be true
Yeah, I think that history should have some little bias, but not too much. And both sides should be shown.
The most important thing i was taught was to try to view history through the lense of society at the time
Many if the account of german tanks during ww2 were writen by nazis, the german tanks like panzer tend to do worse that T 34 , the germans won ironically because of their bigger number of tanks, this is an example were the losing side did write it but the point about taking history with a grain of salt remains