Message from @Karat

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2020-09-21 13:36:54 UTC  

heres what they wrote

2020-09-21 13:36:55 UTC  

lol

2020-09-21 13:36:59 UTC  

anti-american bullshit

2020-09-21 13:37:15 UTC  

here was my response lol

2020-09-21 13:37:16 UTC  

```
Although I agree with the fundamentals behind your argument, arguing for stronger enforcement of the constitution, I think it is important to apply the interpretation of the constitution equally across all Amendments. I appreciate your argument involving interpretation of the constitution, but the rhetoric of the constitution does not explicitly specify that the 2nd Amendment applies to foreign affairs, and to jump to such a conclusion is dangerous. furthermore, I did not see any citations or specifics regarding your claim that America has a "lack of human rights". The Muslim Ban was introduced as a way to promote national security interests, at the expense of travel to and from the Islamic countries. I would challenge the idea that traveling to and from the United States is a "basic human right". The rhetoric you chose to describe the "Muslim being terrorists" is a clear example of a reduction fallacy, where you disingenuously attempt to discredit the President's rhetoric in the interests of promoting the idea that the Executive Action is racist.
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2020-09-21 13:38:03 UTC  

<:benshapirolasereyes:736783642205880320>

2020-09-21 13:38:05 UTC  

I whiffed there with my paraphrased "muslim being terrorists" tho

2020-09-21 13:38:11 UTC  

bruh they dont seem to understand what separation between church and state is lol

2020-09-21 13:38:14 UTC  

lol

2020-09-21 13:38:14 UTC  

ikr

2020-09-21 13:38:20 UTC  

later in their argument

2020-09-21 13:38:29 UTC  

they say that trump is not separating church and state cuz of anti abortion

2020-09-21 13:38:39 UTC  

```
r. He therefore refused to acknowledge the valued separation of church and state for the sake of a broad generalization about Muslims being terrorists. Furthermore, the lack of separation between church and state can be explored through the angle of “pro-life,” a popular Christian movement in America that advocates for legislation banning abortions. Many conservative politicians have joined the movement, bringing these Christian ideals to American government, successfully passing anti-abortion legislation in many states. These laws, while signed rather democratically, have undemocratic undertones, continuing to erase the line between church and state, arguably one of the greatest strengths of our democracy. While the backbone of our nation is somewhat of a democracy, it is the way the game is played, the manipulation of the government through political schemes, that would concern a visitor to the United States, swaying them away from the belief that democracy lives on here.

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2020-09-21 13:38:48 UTC  

Laws that the Church supports doesnt mean the church has governing power

2020-09-21 13:38:56 UTC  

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As for your argument regarding "pro-life" being a predominantly Christian movement, I would challenge you to consider the notion that "pro-life" is merely an interpretation of when life begins, and not a religious phenomena. The government has a responsibility to protect a vulnerable subset of the population, and this interpretation brings to light a interpretation in which the fetus in the woman is a life.
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2020-09-21 13:38:59 UTC  

that was my response lol

2020-09-21 13:39:05 UTC  

of course the church is composed of many people who are able to vote

2020-09-21 13:39:14 UTC  

lol

2020-09-21 13:39:21 UTC  

but imagine thinking the government protecting a baby is church

2020-09-21 13:39:44 UTC  

yeah the church favors it but the church doesnt make laws lol

2020-09-21 13:39:54 UTC  

these kids are stupid af

2020-09-21 13:40:05 UTC  

@DrewDaPilot are you an actual pilot?

2020-09-21 13:40:12 UTC  

lol

2020-09-21 13:40:15 UTC  

not this moment

2020-09-21 13:40:19 UTC  

but I am gonna get my pilots license soon

2020-09-21 13:40:20 UTC  

student pilot?

2020-09-21 13:40:22 UTC  

ah I see

2020-09-21 13:40:23 UTC  

me too

2020-09-21 13:40:25 UTC  

good luck lad

2020-09-21 13:40:30 UTC  

PPL?

2020-09-21 13:40:38 UTC  

lol

2020-09-21 13:40:41 UTC  

Pilot by profession or as a hobby?

2020-09-21 13:40:41 UTC  

oh

2020-09-21 13:40:44 UTC  

I havent started my flight hours

2020-09-21 13:40:47 UTC  

its too fucking expensive lmao

2020-09-21 13:40:50 UTC  

I was thinking about getting the LAPL License

2020-09-21 13:40:56 UTC  

I dont know if you have it in america

2020-09-21 13:41:08 UTC  

it restricts you to 4 seaters that weight a max of 2 tons

2020-09-21 13:41:14 UTC  

hmm

2020-09-21 13:41:16 UTC  

weird

2020-09-21 13:41:18 UTC  

but its cheaper than a ppl