And also the whole vaccine thing...

My dad's side of the family is staunchly against illegal immigration because my Grandparents went through a lot of work to get here legally.

Probably didn’t have much time to prepare

Their stance boiling down to: If we can do it legally, so can you.

@K1ngL0ser187 Okay that's true they are all wrong, I just feel that he should go a different way about it

Well he has said that he would like to reform legal immigration

My family came here legally do and did very well economically

No, our immigration system just need reform to accomidate the flood of peps wanting in

Which, I won't go against because if they want to change things then go on ahead, as long as things meet a baseline of regulation.

true

Essentially the chief point of the Trump Campaign on illegal immigration is, Reform the system, but Totally open borders is going *way* too far.

If we allow illegals to flood the system, you’ll get LA where there’s illegals burdening the public school system, using up natural resources like utilities, and clogging the transportation system (roads, buses, etc)

The Dems want to give the country away and make us totally dependent on other countries like China

Which causes more polution

Oh also, Joe cant even say the plede of Aligence after being Vice Pres for "10 years" and being in senate for "180 years"

I won't hold the 180 years quote against Joe

“You know the thing” - Joe Biden

"200 million dead from covid"

If only because it could be a poorly played Joke.

foof

After all, Ronald Reagan made a lot of jokes like that.

Trump needed to chill a bit

He definitely did. But I had this conversation with someone else

to me, the debate was cringefest.

If you're mean to Trump, he'll be mean right back

Tru

so true

yeah, Biden comes out the Basment for a few days, Accuses Trump of being there, then proceeds to make enough Gaffes to make wonder if he has a mental disorder.

That doesnt matter tho, he needs to appear likeable to the swing voters and he was anything but that

True

I was cringing at both of them

Yup.

foof

And one thing Biden did was face the camera and look like he was speaking to the american people

The jack-ass approach only worked for the primaries in 2016 because Conservatives were fed up with the Republican party

He was caught with a wire

Cus Biden cant actually debate

And Trump brought some much needed "No, screw you, we're doing this my way now"

so he trying to talk to us instead

yeah, i seen that wire too

There was a wire? Foof