I did, but I mean, what else of it? It just confirms his intent to overturn the election results. I don't get why people are acting like it's anything new.

Like I said, did anyone believe these lawsuits were filed just because he wanted to prove he lost by a smaller margin? xD

well, if anyone has been looking for election fraud, we have proof now!

I couldn't really care less at this point, regardless of who would have won I didn't see much changing in the way of someone like me. Everyone on the progressive side milking Trump's loss is about to get a rude awakening when they realize nothing good will come their way under Biden anyways.

It's been this way for the last several decades. It's a big club and you ain't in it.

I'm under no illusion as to what is to come under Joe Biden, it's the same Obama administration all over again...having said that, we don't need a leader who continues to divide us. Biden will also handle the pandemic better. Joe Biden is not perfect, far from it...but at this point we need him.

Given what was in the last "covid relief" bill, I highly doubt it.

Covid bill is questionable, all bets are off! The strategy to handle the virus will be logical.

what do you suggest?

The only thing any of these covid experts had in common was how often they broke the same rules they prescribed to everyone else,

A strategy, not a reminder that we have rights.

it's not what i asked. what do you suggest we do? what should be the strategy? it's a genuine question.

The thing about any lockdown, say I agreed on the paradigm they were effective, the issue is still is that there's always going to be a weak link of people who will disobey them in any situation.

i agree 100%

masks and social distancing should be followed, but not punished by law

what are you on about?

you haven't answered my question.

The state shouldn't also set different standards for how businesses operate, if a Big Box Retailer can operate with no limits on how many occupants can be inside, while closing a smaller retailer across the street arbitrarily

i agree, should be same rules for all. strip joints shouldn't be open if religious institutions are closed. Or maybe they should, what do i know.

I mean look at workers in the meat packing industry during this pandemic, following the laxest of procedures, while smaller restaurants are being forced to shutdown or slapped with nonsense fines despite following all the city's ordinances.

People view it as a way to squeeze money out of people who barely have enough to support themselves or employees while the big dogs can operate as freely as they want with no repercussions.

And I don't blame people for having that view

especially when the vast majority of relief money goes directly to them, and nothing in the form of extending unemployment benefits, no stimulus checks or mortgage freezes for people that didn't sign up with HUD prior to becoming a home owner.

I understand why the restaurants have to be shutdown, the science shows the correlation between restaurants & the spread. But with closure, i expect the Government to step in and financially support businesses. they can bailout big corporations, airlines etc why not small businesses.

The stimulus package has been a complete joke.

If there is a science for restaurants, then why was the French Laundry allowed to operate and host Gav Newsom's friends with no social distancing or mask mandates?

You can't blame people for questioning the science if there's unequal application of the law that follows it.

Hypocrisy.

Not to mention, you can't force someone to close down without giving them some form of monetary compensation for the owners and their employees.

We haven’t done any better here in England. We have the new variant spreading like wildfire.

That's hostage taking of the highest order

That's the problem.

Churchill, do you have a good stimulus package? i hear it's average.

Then in that case, they should be allowed to operate under virtue of being denied any reasonable compensation for having to close down. You can't force someone to stop making a living without picking up the tab.

i agree. The Government has to step in.

and yet they've proven they won't. We're just going to see pork bill after pork bill.

The only hope at this point is to get vaccines rolling out as quickly as possible

and even then I'd be skeptical of these "logical" leaders to divest themselves of any power once the pandemic blows over

It’s not the same as the U.S. we don’t get stimulus cheques. Only financial support. 80% of wages. Same for businesses. Sufficient to some extent. Some always fall through the gap!

@Churchill, you just advanced to level 4!

When someone like Rand Paul tells you that $600 is a slap in the face to common Americans, you know you done f'ed up.