Message from @h឵឵

Discord ID: 794966472933900349


2021-01-02 16:30:39 UTC  

That is impossible

2021-01-02 16:30:43 UTC  

God was always existent he wasn’t born.

2021-01-02 16:30:53 UTC  

and im asking how

2021-01-02 16:30:58 UTC  

but that cant happen

2021-01-02 16:31:19 UTC  

he HAS to be created from something thats natrual law

2021-01-02 16:31:23 UTC  

How?

2021-01-02 16:31:27 UTC  

Because he’s uncreated.

2021-01-02 16:31:31 UTC  

thats not really natural law

2021-01-02 16:31:36 UTC  

Natural law?

2021-01-02 16:31:42 UTC  

Seriously?

2021-01-02 16:31:46 UTC  

God is supernatural

2021-01-02 16:31:51 UTC  

you cant fucking be created out of nothing

2021-01-02 16:31:57 UTC  

dog in boat

2021-01-02 16:32:03 UTC  

take a chill pill!

2021-01-02 16:32:07 UTC  

what?

2021-01-02 16:32:12 UTC  

I’ll get to explaining.

2021-01-02 16:32:20 UTC  

go ahead

2021-01-02 16:32:31 UTC  

My wifi is really bad

2021-01-02 16:32:31 UTC  

wait

2021-01-02 16:32:37 UTC  

aight

2021-01-02 16:32:56 UTC  

@BritSpic stop ignoring me dude you've been on this server for probably longer than me yet you didnt say anything

2021-01-02 16:33:06 UTC  

you probably also arent aware of my existence in this server

2021-01-02 16:33:07 UTC  

lol

2021-01-02 16:33:28 UTC  

Ibn Taymiyyah commented on this tradition, writing:

من المعلوم بالعلم الضروري الفطري لكل مَن سلِمتْ فطرته مِن بني آدم أنه سؤال فاسد وأنه يمتنع أن يكون لخالقِ كلِّ مخلوقٍ خالقٌ فإنه لو كان له خالقٌ لكان مخلوقاً ولم يكن خالقاً لكل مخلوق

It is known by necessity and human nature, for all who have sound nature among the children of Adam, that the question is invalid. It is not possible for the Creator of the creation to have a creator. If He had a creator, He would be created Himself and would not be the Creator of everything.

Source: Dar’ Taʻāruḍ al-’Aql wal-Naql 3/314

2021-01-02 16:33:53 UTC  

who is ibn taymiyyah

2021-01-02 16:34:32 UTC  

A famous scholar

2021-01-02 16:34:37 UTC  

way ago

2021-01-02 16:34:40 UTC  

who destroyed Greek

2021-01-02 16:34:40 UTC  

Eventually when you ask the question of who created the universe, you have to come across the original being that created it and they probably weren't created themselves

2021-01-02 16:34:42 UTC  

philosophers

2021-01-02 16:34:48 UTC  

and Christians

2021-01-02 16:34:57 UTC  

He’s insanely knowledgeable.

2021-01-02 16:35:32 UTC  

I look up to him.

2021-01-02 16:35:35 UTC  

salahadin i want to ask you one thing

2021-01-02 16:35:39 UTC  

Go on

2021-01-02 16:35:56 UTC  

do you believe in all hadiths or those who you would like to pick sides on?

2021-01-02 16:36:04 UTC  

See h

2021-01-02 16:36:16 UTC  

there’s classification in Hadith.

2021-01-02 16:36:30 UTC  

Hadith terminology and the grading of Hadith is very complex.

2021-01-02 16:36:41 UTC  

So because some old crampy guy basicly said "uhhhh dont question him he can be created out of nothing" my question is invalid?