Message from @dog in boat

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dog in boat
2021-01-02 16:29:38 UTC  

1. you have to be created out of something, you dont just exist out of nothing
2. Why shouldnt he be questioned? I get he is a god and all but that just makes no sense, my theory tho is that they say that because they dont want people to question the ethinicity of his story and you should just "believe" him because they are scared
3. 3 makes sense i get it

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:29:58 UTC  

i always get that answer ''he was always here''

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:30:02 UTC  

how was he always here?

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:30:12 UTC  

thats the question.

S2
2021-01-02 16:30:15 UTC  

God is uncreated.

S2
2021-01-02 16:30:24 UTC  

That’s it.

dog in boat
2021-01-02 16:30:39 UTC  

That is impossible

S2
2021-01-02 16:30:43 UTC  

God was always existent he wasn’t born.

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:30:53 UTC  

and im asking how

dog in boat
2021-01-02 16:30:58 UTC  

but that cant happen

dog in boat
2021-01-02 16:31:19 UTC  

he HAS to be created from something thats natrual law

S2
2021-01-02 16:31:23 UTC  

How?

S2
2021-01-02 16:31:27 UTC  

Because he’s uncreated.

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:31:31 UTC  

thats not really natural law

S2
2021-01-02 16:31:36 UTC  

Natural law?

S2
2021-01-02 16:31:42 UTC  

Seriously?

S2
2021-01-02 16:31:46 UTC  

God is supernatural

dog in boat
2021-01-02 16:31:51 UTC  

you cant fucking be created out of nothing

S2
2021-01-02 16:31:57 UTC  

dog in boat

S2
2021-01-02 16:32:03 UTC  

take a chill pill!

dog in boat
2021-01-02 16:32:07 UTC  

what?

S2
2021-01-02 16:32:12 UTC  

I’ll get to explaining.

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:32:20 UTC  

go ahead

S2
2021-01-02 16:32:31 UTC  

My wifi is really bad

S2
2021-01-02 16:32:31 UTC  

wait

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:32:37 UTC  

aight

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:32:56 UTC  

@BritSpic stop ignoring me dude you've been on this server for probably longer than me yet you didnt say anything

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:33:06 UTC  

you probably also arent aware of my existence in this server

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:33:07 UTC  

lol

S2
2021-01-02 16:33:28 UTC  

Ibn Taymiyyah commented on this tradition, writing:

من المعلوم بالعلم الضروري الفطري لكل مَن سلِمتْ فطرته مِن بني آدم أنه سؤال فاسد وأنه يمتنع أن يكون لخالقِ كلِّ مخلوقٍ خالقٌ فإنه لو كان له خالقٌ لكان مخلوقاً ولم يكن خالقاً لكل مخلوق

It is known by necessity and human nature, for all who have sound nature among the children of Adam, that the question is invalid. It is not possible for the Creator of the creation to have a creator. If He had a creator, He would be created Himself and would not be the Creator of everything.

Source: Dar’ Taʻāruḍ al-’Aql wal-Naql 3/314

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:33:53 UTC  

who is ibn taymiyyah

S2
2021-01-02 16:34:32 UTC  

A famous scholar

S2
2021-01-02 16:34:37 UTC  

way ago

S2
2021-01-02 16:34:40 UTC  

who destroyed Greek

Chaka
2021-01-02 16:34:40 UTC  

Eventually when you ask the question of who created the universe, you have to come across the original being that created it and they probably weren't created themselves

S2
2021-01-02 16:34:42 UTC  

philosophers

S2
2021-01-02 16:34:48 UTC  

and Christians

S2
2021-01-02 16:34:57 UTC  

He’s insanely knowledgeable.

S2
2021-01-02 16:35:32 UTC  

I look up to him.

h឵឵
2021-01-02 16:35:35 UTC  

salahadin i want to ask you one thing