God*

Let’s calm down the situation first

Lets be respectful to each other ok

2. we reduce the amount of transport, especially individual transport, that we do as a society. less driving, more walking/riding the bus etc

Lets agree upon that

So when it comes to the renewables

Solar and wind are useless and produces more CO2 in its production and nuclear energy is out of the picture completely now

3. we implement a tax on carbon release to force businesses (the ones reducing the CO2) to reduce their carbon output by making it make them more money

solar and wind are not useless

If you’re trying to reduce fossil fuels

That’ll never happen

This vid is making me so fucking mad https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381916320423215104/794268033610154014/video0.mp4

If you’re trying to tax carbon that’ll never happen

Why not?

Because the fossil fuels industry will not allow it

THEN KILL THEM

I’m telling you

I'm seriosu

Kill them

Wtf?

Are you fucking insane am

Are you fucking high right now

These people are responsible for the possible deaths of millions

What the fuck are you even talking about

if killing them solves the issue, they need to die

You’re seriously saying fossil fuels is like Hitler?

And Stalin

And Mao

I'm talking about killing anyone who stands in the way of saving millions of lives

And all these other people

fossil fuels may very well turn out to be worse in terms of # of people killed, actually.

not *yet* but in the future they may be

I think this conversation is over

It’s gotten way out of hand

because you don't actually care about solving issues

Impossible. Personal transport use can be reduced. Not purchase, at least in large countries

It’s gotten way out of line

that's why i said reduce not eliminate

This is what society becomes if you wanna rely solely on renewables: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F772a6ee2-fde5-11e6-a22f-c31ef65384a0.jpg?crop=2949%2C1659%2C0%2C154&resize=1180

And reducing personal transportation still produces CO2

hence nuclear