Message from @Crasseus

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2020-12-01 04:14:49 UTC  

Exactly

2020-12-01 04:15:18 UTC  

Because so far many people have been struggling horribly due to loss of work and businesses have had to close permanently

2020-12-01 04:15:41 UTC  

Yep!

2020-12-01 04:15:42 UTC  

Yes I also agree

2020-12-01 04:15:49 UTC  

UBI is better in that case

2020-12-01 04:16:19 UTC  

And I feel like the stimulus package is just something they threw together real quick

2020-12-01 04:16:23 UTC  

Without giving it much thought

2020-12-01 04:16:34 UTC  

If UBI was implemented, more work would go into it

2020-12-01 04:16:54 UTC  

Im sure they did give it a lot of thought but honestly, a stimulus package doesnt do anything long term. Thats where the flaw is

2020-12-01 04:16:55 UTC  

In other words, They didn’t learn from the recession & are implementing the same ideas to something different

2020-12-01 04:17:05 UTC  

ORRRRR we could not close down the economy

2020-12-01 04:17:16 UTC  

And put priority on the elderly or those most vulnerable

2020-12-01 04:18:02 UTC  

@Mystika What do you mean by Priority?

2020-12-01 04:18:29 UTC  

Now I dont like closing the economy; however, if done, it should be state by state basis, or even county by county, and should have been done sooner to halt the spread. Even with them promoting lockdowns, they did it way too late for it to really be effective.

2020-12-01 04:18:48 UTC  

Agreed!

2020-12-01 04:18:56 UTC  

This isn’t really a debate anymore Lol

2020-12-01 04:19:13 UTC  

It’s just stating facts that are cut from the same cloth

2020-12-01 04:19:27 UTC  

Well I work in healthcare

2020-12-01 04:19:41 UTC  

I mean putting priority on long term care facilities or senior homes

2020-12-01 04:19:51 UTC  

Putting more restrictions on the vulnerable

2020-12-01 04:20:01 UTC  

Yes, thats where the death toll really is

2020-12-01 04:20:12 UTC  

Because many younger people have gotten it and have been able to isolate at home and get over it

2020-12-01 04:20:24 UTC  

I’m still a student so I experience so I don’t really benefit or lose anything from closures

2020-12-01 04:20:25 UTC  

But then people would have issue with just restricting a certain group of people

2020-12-01 04:20:27 UTC  

The fact that people are getting arrested for keeping their businesses open is bewildering to me

2020-12-01 04:21:00 UTC  

No I just meant I work in healthcare so I see the type of people who have to get hospitalized due to covid vs those who don't have to

2020-12-01 04:21:10 UTC  

True

2020-12-01 04:21:19 UTC  

Oh, I’m sorry!

2020-12-01 04:21:26 UTC  

It's either that or the economy

2020-12-01 04:21:30 UTC  

I got confused Lol

2020-12-01 04:21:32 UTC  

We have a pretty good life expectancy here, right?

2020-12-01 04:21:35 UTC  

@Anguished Art Student no don't be sorry :)

2020-12-01 04:21:49 UTC  

I know, but its America. People are very defensive over that sort of thing.

2020-12-01 04:22:09 UTC  

If one thing can really define our culture, its rebellion. Lol

2020-12-01 04:22:31 UTC  

Lmao, you take the risk and go outside when you're vulnerable, well too bad. It shouldn't be the governments job to force people

2020-12-01 04:23:06 UTC  

Right. Then theres the issue of overburdening healthcare though

2020-12-01 04:23:14 UTC  

Maybe it's different for me. Everyone in Canada is too obedient without questioning anything so it's the exact opposite

2020-12-01 04:23:24 UTC  

True, the purpose of a government is to dictate & limit. Not control.

2020-12-01 04:23:33 UTC  

The people that land in ICU are people with pre-existing conditions and the elderly

2020-12-01 04:23:41 UTC  

So it still goes back to them

2020-12-01 04:23:57 UTC  

I have yet to see a case of anyone under 35 in the ICU for covid