Message from @Crasseus

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2020-12-01 04:07:05 UTC  

Was my bad probably 😔 Sowwyy

2020-12-01 04:07:13 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-01 04:07:24 UTC  

He probably got bored Lol

2020-12-01 04:07:29 UTC  

Ah okay LOL

2020-12-01 04:07:42 UTC  

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2020-12-01 04:09:08 UTC  

What did you want to debate about? @Anguished Art Student

2020-12-01 04:09:48 UTC  

I’m a firm believer in UBI being better than the current stimulus package, try to prove me wrong!

2020-12-01 04:10:12 UTC  

Universal Basic Income?

2020-12-01 04:10:19 UTC  

Yep!

2020-12-01 04:10:27 UTC  

Have we seen it in action?

2020-12-01 04:11:23 UTC  

Not on a large scale...

2020-12-01 04:11:24 UTC  

In terms of getting through this pandemic, probably yeah. Considering UBI takes into consideration everything else in the economy and the cost of living whereas the stimulus is temporary

2020-12-01 04:11:29 UTC  

Not much of an argument there

2020-12-01 04:11:43 UTC  

Long term, neither are feasible

2020-12-01 04:11:53 UTC  

True!

2020-12-01 04:12:02 UTC  

So we probably agree on that one xD

2020-12-01 04:12:27 UTC  

But if we are talking about the short term universal basic income will better sustain our economy

2020-12-01 04:12:35 UTC  

Prob Lol

2020-12-01 04:12:51 UTC  

Still

2020-12-01 04:13:24 UTC  

Many people on the Right refuse to accept it because of the Leftist stigma surrounding it

2020-12-01 04:13:32 UTC  

Yes short term UBI would be more reliable for everyone out of work

2020-12-01 04:13:44 UTC  

It's just not feasible for long term

2020-12-01 04:13:46 UTC  

Stimulus package is just a lot of hopeful wishing and waiting

2020-12-01 04:14:04 UTC  

But we also need to find a way to decrease it and promote a return to the work force

2020-12-01 04:14:17 UTC  

So people dont become too dependant on it once covid blows over

2020-12-01 04:14:33 UTC  

While UBI keeps our economy treading water until we recover

2020-12-01 04:14:49 UTC  

Exactly

2020-12-01 04:15:18 UTC  

Because so far many people have been struggling horribly due to loss of work and businesses have had to close permanently

2020-12-01 04:15:41 UTC  

Yep!

2020-12-01 04:15:42 UTC  

Yes I also agree

2020-12-01 04:15:49 UTC  

UBI is better in that case

2020-12-01 04:16:19 UTC  

And I feel like the stimulus package is just something they threw together real quick

2020-12-01 04:16:23 UTC  

Without giving it much thought

2020-12-01 04:16:34 UTC  

If UBI was implemented, more work would go into it

2020-12-01 04:16:54 UTC  

Im sure they did give it a lot of thought but honestly, a stimulus package doesnt do anything long term. Thats where the flaw is

2020-12-01 04:16:55 UTC  

In other words, They didn’t learn from the recession & are implementing the same ideas to something different

2020-12-01 04:17:05 UTC  

ORRRRR we could not close down the economy

2020-12-01 04:17:16 UTC  

And put priority on the elderly or those most vulnerable

2020-12-01 04:18:02 UTC  

@Mystika What do you mean by Priority?

2020-12-01 04:18:29 UTC  

Now I dont like closing the economy; however, if done, it should be state by state basis, or even county by county, and should have been done sooner to halt the spread. Even with them promoting lockdowns, they did it way too late for it to really be effective.

2020-12-01 04:18:48 UTC  

Agreed!