Message from @vbonecrusher1014

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2020-12-15 03:37:36 UTC  

Taxes.

2020-12-15 03:37:36 UTC  

I'm drinking haha

2020-12-15 03:37:41 UTC  

Too Long Don't Read

2020-12-15 03:37:44 UTC  

summarize it for me

2020-12-15 03:37:45 UTC  

Taxes but not taxes

2020-12-15 03:37:59 UTC  

Where does the money for federal programs in the US come from if not from taxes ?

2020-12-15 03:38:13 UTC  

To be fair, with that sort of system in place, I would much rather it be through state and local taxation rather than federal.

2020-12-15 03:38:24 UTC  

@Mystika ok in the united states when ever we fund a program the federal reserve credits a account(military contract, pharma ect). The fed types a number into the computer

2020-12-15 03:38:31 UTC  

no no no

2020-12-15 03:38:34 UTC  

that would suckl

2020-12-15 03:38:41 UTC  

wait finish ur explanation LMAO

2020-12-15 03:38:43 UTC  

states can go bankrupt the us cannot

2020-12-15 03:38:44 UTC  

That's it >?

2020-12-15 03:38:49 UTC  

very simple

2020-12-15 03:38:53 UTC  

So just print unlimited money

2020-12-15 03:38:59 UTC  

i never said that

2020-12-15 03:39:02 UTC  

that would suck

2020-12-15 03:39:02 UTC  

Is that literally what you're saying or am I misinterpreting it

2020-12-15 03:39:07 UTC  

That's what I'm understanding though

2020-12-15 03:39:09 UTC  

Yeah

2020-12-15 03:39:09 UTC  

i have no finished

2020-12-15 03:39:10 UTC  

relax

2020-12-15 03:39:11 UTC  

Same here

2020-12-15 03:39:49 UTC  

(By the way, we do not plan on banning you no matter how much we disagree in this debate. Lol. Apparently other servers suck enough to where that's a concern)

2020-12-15 03:40:15 UTC  

taxes are used for 2 things. For deflationary purposes, and to create demand for the dollar. Notice how "to fund government spending" is not one of them. Hypothetically speaking the us can fund programs without needing tax dollars. In order to do the united states expands credit and auctions us treasury bonds. With that in mind it is also important to understand that the debt, nominally, and even debt(deficit if you want)/GDP are not important figures of finding out our "ceiling" of what we can spend. In order to find this ceiling we must look at inflation, and if we are looking at inflation or rather;how much can we increase aggregate demand without increasing inflation past 2 percent(the feds goal), we must focus on real recourses. This dichotomy flips our political system on its head. Politicians (mostly republicans at this point) use the debt as a dog whistle so that they can block any social programs then go on to push for military budget increases and tax cuts that dis proportionally aid the wealthy. this is a copy pasta i use

2020-12-15 03:40:17 UTC  

Can we still say the N word or is that banned now @Crasseus

2020-12-15 03:40:18 UTC  

that i wrote

2020-12-15 03:40:18 UTC  

LMAO

2020-12-15 03:40:22 UTC  

woah relax

2020-12-15 03:40:36 UTC  

I'm a big supporter of freedom of speech

2020-12-15 03:40:44 UTC  

Even if it makes people uncomfortable

2020-12-15 03:40:46 UTC  

That includes the N word

2020-12-15 03:41:14 UTC  

But N word wasn't directed at you

2020-12-15 03:41:19 UTC  

I was just asking Chaos

2020-12-15 03:41:32 UTC  

federal programs are funded by the fed typing a number into a computer, we can do this because we are monetarily sovreighn. This means we issue our own currecny, we have a fiat system(no gold standard its ew), most our debt is owned in our own currency, and we are the reserve currency(just a extra part)

2020-12-15 03:41:33 UTC  

okay now let me read your thingy

2020-12-15 03:41:58 UTC  

i study econ so sorry if it gets confusing

2020-12-15 03:42:01 UTC  

but you are a nurse

2020-12-15 03:42:05 UTC  

so you very smart lady

2020-12-15 03:42:34 UTC  

No

2020-12-15 03:42:36 UTC  

I'm a drug dealer