Message from @zola

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2020-12-09 07:01:52 UTC  

What's this?

2020-12-09 07:08:50 UTC  

no no. thats not what that means

2020-12-09 07:09:17 UTC  

if it was docket, it just means they met procedural requirements and scotus will decide to take the case or not

2020-12-09 07:09:23 UTC  

doesnt mean they will take the case

2020-12-09 07:10:29 UTC  

a win for texas lawsuit means scotus take the case on first instance (very rare and unlikely) or set a master judge to decide on the case (possibly)

2020-12-09 07:11:14 UTC  

the key is looking through old court cases to see if the lawsuit can be vindicated through old court cases that were already settled (i believe there have been)

2020-12-09 07:11:24 UTC  

and scotus will probably just use those old court cases as the remedy

2020-12-09 07:13:17 UTC  

I believe there is precedent

2020-12-09 07:13:21 UTC  

But idk what it is

2020-12-09 07:14:00 UTC  

And because they'll have original jurisdiction they can introduce new evidence

2020-12-09 07:15:38 UTC  

scotus is an appeal court

2020-12-09 07:16:05 UTC  

election laws are state related, they usually dont like taking up cases that are state related and will likely push it back down

2020-12-09 07:16:17 UTC  

or find another remedy to avoid without an actual appeal first

2020-12-09 07:17:33 UTC  

if scotus does take on the case as first instance, that'll be the first. and a lot of these left wing media will start saying they overthrew the election

2020-12-09 07:18:02 UTC  

actually i need to stop, i dont know a lot, so anything can happen

2020-12-09 07:18:11 UTC  

lets hope texas win, but its a long shotr

2020-12-09 07:19:19 UTC  

I'm not very optimistic either, but I keep a sliver of hope in me

2020-12-09 07:20:32 UTC  

Scotus almost always works in an appellate jurisdiction

2020-12-09 07:20:50 UTC  

This is@not an appellate situation

2020-12-09 07:21:06 UTC  

Again, it's an original jurisdiction

2020-12-09 07:21:55 UTC  

And state vs Tate in a federal election manner changes the state relationship bit

2020-12-09 07:24:58 UTC  

The jurisdiction part should clear it up

2020-12-09 07:27:59 UTC  

im not arguing if they have original jurisdiction or not, they do

2020-12-09 07:28:05 UTC  

I'm not arguing either

2020-12-09 07:28:06 UTC  

it goes to the SCOTUS without an appeal

2020-12-09 07:28:11 UTC  

but what im saying is

2020-12-09 07:28:19 UTC  

SCOTUS, hardly, if ever, accepts a first instance trial

2020-12-09 07:28:43 UTC  

you will never find in SCOTUS some sort of first instance trial on evidence, etc...

2020-12-09 07:28:44 UTC  

Most aren't state v state

2020-12-09 07:29:05 UTC  

This is the rate instance

2020-12-09 07:29:12 UTC  

Rare

2020-12-09 07:29:40 UTC  

The second link is super in depth

2020-12-09 07:29:46 UTC  

ill check it out

2020-12-09 07:33:45 UTC  

@zola here

2020-12-09 07:34:02 UTC  

```In the late twentieth century, the Supreme Court further limited its original docket by declaring that it would exercise discretion over whether to hear cases even if they were legitimately within the Court's jurisdiction. In a series of cases in 1971, including Ohio v. Wyandotte Chemicals Corp ., the Court declined to hear environmental pollution claims brought by states against corporations that dealt with complex and technical factual questions. The justices ruled that the states had other available forums to bring their claims and that the cases were not "appropriate" for the Court in light of its primary function as the nation's highest appellate tribunal. The Court resolved to examine the "seriousness and dignity" of claims so as to preserve its resources for consideration of appeals involving federal questions. The Supreme Court soon expanded its appropriateness doctrine to decline to hear some cases between two states, even where the Court's jurisdiction was exclusive.```

2020-12-09 07:34:12 UTC  

they dont need to take it

2020-12-09 07:34:25 UTC  

they can send it right back down to the lower courts

2020-12-09 07:34:30 UTC  

even if it involves 2 states

2020-12-09 07:35:27 UTC  

The exception to that is sTate v tate