> I do not follow scripture like that
@pipupapu

I'll happily say that I follow the scripture.

that's why when Satan, whom is an animal, deceives people into disobeying God they become less like God and more like an animal like Satan and he basically becoems their father

Hm yes he is even referred to as a Beast.

well look how the final false kingdom and the Man of Sin are caleld the Beasts too, and Satan gives them his own power

they will be like he is

Okay so you are god

What does that entail then?

Other than that scripture has told you so

to the contrary Jesus will come and save all God's children and they will live forever with God

the Father wants his children and will dwell with them in New Jerusalem which is in essence the Bride, the true Church. It's in a figure of a family

We have the agency to not only realize that we will one day die, which no other animal has.

We can choose from Good and Evil. I mean we have so many unique characteristics that have shown that we are indeed the offspring of God and made in his image.

the animals can realize they'll die one day, lol Satan will realize it one day when he gets thrown down here and barred from heaven, and he'll be extraordinarily wrathful

I dont think so. They can realize when they are being hunted or threatened.

But they have no internal concept of death.

Or what it means.

Or anything like that.

In fact the vast vast majority of animals dont even recognize themselves in a mirror, as themselves.

They think it is another animal. and are perplexed.

@pipupapu to be a god, liek the verses says is to be a son of the Most High. Jesus is the teacher and the symbol of this, the Way and the Truth that if we beelive on him, and do his commandments, we'll become sons of God

Hm yes either Jesus is your Daddy or Satan is. haha

just like Jesus, for he show the Way, and also is the restorer for where we, as all have, messed up

Demigod

well the Father is our daddy lol Jesus is his Word, and the Word also is God, but Jesus is also the Word of God, eternally in the Father, but also the first begotten of all. Just as a man whom is image of God has a word inside him and also begets his word by speakign and his word is not separate from him, same with God

Baby daddy

but we'll digress into trinity stuff which is jsut boring

@Japheth you do believe in the Trinity right

the overall point is the more like God you are the higher rank in that kingdom of man and it is not a rank any man can give

The trinity oh yes. very important.

That definition doesnt seem satisfactory

to the contrary the more like Satan, the more highly ranked you are in his kingdom of man, inverted to the kingdom of God, the higher ranked you are in Satan's kingdom the lower and less godlike and even humanlike you will become, you will become liek an animal because that's what Satan is

Any of you all watch the hake report today

nah i slept in way too late lol you, shalom, and pipu kept me up way past my bedtime lol, no regrets though it was fun

@Japheth yeah me too

@Japheth it was fun

I like the way christians talk about humans though.. the born sinners concept. Its not to say you will only commit sin but that you can and will sin and you have to consistently do maintenance on yourself and do your best to align yourself with god at all times.. this concept of being gods is kind of funny to me.. but for all i know christians share that same belief

🤔 hmm and I will say I really enjoyed my discussion with you @pipupapu albeit we had some disagreements at the start. but we figured it out and I do enjoy challenges

hmm well we're not born sinners, though that's a doctrine some made

It was based off of adam and eve

but sin is in the world so all will fall away when they cleave to the world

yea i know about the doctrine

but children for instance are more pure, they're not as tainted yet by the world, so like for example when Jeroboam's son dies the prophet says that there was still some good in him

he was jsut too young to have been tainted by the world