But inherently in that statement at the end youre saying that people can change but that they never will

2. Yes this is true about the swing voters, but at the same time Trump has made his campaign on law and order. He has to back up his words with action. In 2016 why he was popular is his promises to take action on several key things, and it has gone unnoticed that he failed to act for isntance in locking up the corrupt Democrats even after they were caught redhanded. What was the result of him showing pity to them? They fucking impeached him on a hoax that they made up to cover their own exposure by Wikileaks. Trump's base wants action. Trump has not really fired up his base like they were before because his campaign so far is essentially just a tit-for-tat word battle with the Democrats. He has to do something or at least propose to do something. Action is always louder than words

@pipupapu there's a famous quote; "Plus ca change, plus ce la meme chose" It means "the more that things change, the mroe they stay the same"

3. I agree, civil war is to be avoided. That's more the reason a crackdown is needed. If you give license to the wicked they're going to prolieferate and wax worse, not get better. The threat of a civil war is greater if you allow anarchy to be normalized instead of publicly punished.

Thats one hell of a world view.. it feels like something that came from someone whos vision of their ideals never came to fruition in the real world and painted their world in shades of grey

no i am not for shades of grey

it is indeed not founded oh idealism though, more of a realistic view

I dont think there will come a time when right vs wrong or good vs evil will ever have a conclusive end but thats not a great reason to accept a quote like that

Its a worthless quote with no intent

Just shades of grey

I suppose it does promote absurdism or nihilism

there will come a time when evil is entirely defeated

" absurdism. Nihilism. "

that's what we're realyl looking forward to

that's of course the Apocalypse and the lead up to it

Thats the only thing i can take from that quote you used there

It looks like misery and its truely not me trying to attack you by saying so

oh i didn't take it as an attack at all, actually your style of argument is very good, i am actually fairly impressed

yes it is to a degree misery, that is to say the world is certainly a world of misery

but that's more the point of lookign forward to the end of the world, that God will destroy the miserable world and all teh wicked, and he will save us from the wicked and he will wipe the tears of the good away forever. A paraphrase of the culminating moment of the Apocalypse.

this is why we look forward to the Apocalypse and furthermore seek to hasten its coming

Dont be too impressed lol

Gotta brb ill reply in maybe 30

yea no problem, lol and imrpessed as far as an internet discussion goes. Frankly compared to most that sharpen swords with me, you're very well thought out, don't rely on personal attack, and very capable. It's very refreshing compared to what they usually bring before me of "muh you said mean words, you support Trump, you a jew, you a nazi, you a raciss, etc. etc."

So anyhow

A crazy thing about Goerge Floyd's overdose death being milked by political parasites is both jooze and palestinkians said they also were like black people

lol

Who were victims of "systemic racism"

yea everybody hates white people

Palestinkians claimed to be victims of racism from jooze

And jooze claimed to be victims from everyone

it's ironic because there is no real such thing as a palestinian

they're just arabs

Did you not see this

Ancient Israel (Judea) was delegated Syria Palaestina by Rome after the Bar Kokhba revolt

i am familiar that they renamed the province to Palestina, but then that proves that the people there are not palestinian, and that there was no independent nation called palestine

Wot

Do you not know the difference between nationality and ethnicity

right the pagan roman emperor renamed it to spite the jews and try to remove their tie to the land

yes i know the difference

Ok

the palestinians today are arab muslims, there has never been a nation of palestine