Message from @.Master Peasant⚓💤

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2020-12-01 00:08:17 UTC  

but this is the great trap of deceitful dragon Satan, this means the blame falls not on the muslims of today, or those born as muslims, but the fear and the blame is the chains which they use to keep the muslims in the fallen state kingdom so that they might trick them into eating the curses with them

2020-12-01 00:08:27 UTC  

Have you yet accepted that I am not for giving blacks land as you stated, Japheth?

2020-12-01 00:08:39 UTC  

a lot of them go by koran, but i woudl say you are right

2020-12-01 00:08:51 UTC  

some are differing by muslim sect and then i'd say also their race and nationality

2020-12-01 00:09:25 UTC  

liek the shia of iran have the whole Twelver legend and shit, btu the sunni groups, not really, because they don't give a fuck abotu mahdi or follow that lien of succession of the caliphs

2020-12-01 00:09:50 UTC  

and then for the pakis there is good old Ghazwa E-Hind!

2020-12-01 00:10:04 UTC  

Yeah, Mahdi is a concept outside of the Quran.

2020-12-01 00:10:25 UTC  

which is a fun particular doomsday theory involving hindus, obviously not in koran or even hadith, but moreso inspired b ythe pakistan and india racial/national rivalry

2020-12-01 00:10:39 UTC  

well mahdi is part of like shia islam

2020-12-01 00:10:49 UTC  

The sunni also speak of it

2020-12-01 00:11:01 UTC  

following the line of succession they follow ends at Mahdi whom fell down a well and died in their lien of succession

2020-12-01 00:11:32 UTC  

because he died they have no line and shia illegitimated further in islam, but they make legend he is not dead and will come again to do battle with dajjal and shit

2020-12-01 00:11:39 UTC  

inserting him into the koranic eschatology

2020-12-01 00:12:22 UTC  

then for our time era, it has taken further apocalyptic connotations for shia groups, especially militant ones, i mean hell the leaders of iran are the most famous twelvers

2020-12-01 00:17:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457991466174906368/783124613327749130/unknown.png

2020-12-01 00:26:20 UTC  
2020-12-01 00:26:37 UTC  

sup

2020-12-01 00:27:06 UTC  

I see, thanks

2020-12-01 00:28:05 UTC  

What does efface that and narrate from me, mean?

2020-12-01 00:28:39 UTC  

destroy it and listen to him instead

2020-12-01 00:29:00 UTC  

Ok, so i should not listen to this verse because allah didn't write it

2020-12-01 00:29:07 UTC  

i mean mohammad didnt

2020-12-01 00:29:09 UTC  

man i am trying to find a good Ghazwa E-Hind video but they're all in foreign languages 😦

2020-12-01 00:30:00 UTC  

well no, Mohammad is ironically saying not to record anything he says or does except the Koran

2020-12-01 00:30:23 UTC  

which then ironically makes the hadith and canonical islamic biographers in jeopardy, kinda funny

2020-12-01 00:30:26 UTC  

but oh well

2020-12-01 00:30:28 UTC  

That verse is saying that verse should be effaced

2020-12-01 00:30:43 UTC  

😐

2020-12-01 00:30:44 UTC  

lol

2020-12-01 00:30:48 UTC  

hence the irony

2020-12-01 00:31:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457991466174906368/783128054804774922/unknown.png

2020-12-01 00:31:29 UTC  

It's a contradiction, it means nothing

2020-12-01 00:31:43 UTC  

Well if it's contradictory it means we don't have to listen to it.

2020-12-01 00:31:50 UTC  

No way to verify hearsay.

2020-12-01 00:32:00 UTC  

right

2020-12-01 00:32:31 UTC  

We can talk about hadith till the cows come home. But it remains speculation and assumption of it actually having merit or being true.

2020-12-01 00:32:47 UTC  

A hadith says don't read hadith

2020-12-01 00:32:49 UTC  

contradiction

2020-12-01 00:33:04 UTC  

should i read the hadith and learn that i should not have read that?

2020-12-01 00:33:40 UTC  

well the hadith is canon but is more secondary to the quran

2020-12-01 00:33:51 UTC  

If the Quran said that then that would be fine, but you have it coming from a hadith that's just a contradiction