Message from @Maw
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No, he's purely looking at the individual systems.
I have very few opinions.
Fair enough.
@D EMC I, personally, would like it possible where I live to defend my home with my weapon. That is not the case. So my opinion is worthless.
If I am to extend this right to some of the dufuses who own weapons, I am more unsure if that is a sane rule.
Again, I find myself incapable of determining what others should or should not due.
So you're a non interventionist
You're neutral basically
Just an observer
But I can, for instance, say that based on my personal experience with such mobs, mr. Rittenhouses position had they gotten hold of him and he was unarmed, could have been life threating. At the very least a wheelchair.
Agreed.
I have mixed feelings about it, but I too usually go by legal definitions.
yes. I prefer to observe. I think of it like a football match. I am not on the grass, and will never be able to get there, so I cant influence the outcome.
If at any point he lost control of his gun, he wouldn't be in court, he'd be in a casket.
I wouldn't say that.
But from a legal perspective you think he was right or nah
Is it reasonable to think he was in fear of his life? For sure. Do I think he likely would of died if he didn't do what he did? Ehhhhh...
It's at least somewhat likely he'd be dead.
Would you agree with that?
"from a legal perspective" - if that means how does it look like when you compare events to law, it looks to me like it is self defense under Wisconsin law.
At the very least severely injured, for sure hospital if not dead. Agreed?
I think it's reasonable for him to fear for his life/serious bodily injury in all cases of confrontation where he used deadly force.
So he did the best thing for his self preservation, cuz at least he's alive now.
any blow to the head has a chance of turning you into Stephen Hawkins, he was struck once in the head with a heavy object. I do believe this is grounds to say his life as he knew it, was in danger.
I do not think it is likely to have ended up with him dying.
But that's not what you have to prove.
Regardless of who he shot in the process, he sucesfully defended himself.
Well it was at least reasonable for him to genuinely fear for his life
That's the point yes.
Once you prove that, you're good.
it would appear so
If the court agrees
Even if it's a 5-20% chance it's enough grounds to me that reasonably you could use deadly force to protect yourself from the risk of death.
I can present you with the argument the prosecution would make here, @D EMC , because it is also a logic one.
for it not being self defense.
Isn't it enough to prove you even had reasonable chance of believing you had risk of serious bodily harm?
Yes.
But that's defined differently in many states.
So the skateboard alone is already evidence
Bruises can constitute serious bodily injury, no I'm not joking.