Which in my opinion is a downgraded warrant.

so we can pin the culpability for that on whoever did the ordering

Eh? I still think the culpability resides with whomever ordered the original warrant.

Unless we're trying to guess 'what would have been' if they were to execute it as a no-knock warrant.

i am not a fan of no knock warrants

Oh, I hate them.

They're anti-American.

but i would say in this case there would probably be less dead people

If executed as a no-knock?

yeah

of course if no warrant was issued there would be no dead people as well

You could certainly argue that, but I have a feeling he kept his gun close to him at all times.

Why were people not protesting before George Floyd?

Remember, they have to clear rooms, it would take a bit to reach the opposite end of the hall to overwhelm him.

@nainani there have been

but they were more localized

not widespread

Breonna Taylor happened before Floyd IIRC.

March? I think? May?

Why did the media decide to report and spread this news during a pandemic?

It's mostly about the media and what they decide to put on the front page so people can know about things. Why weren't people spreading news beforehand?

has the media ever not reported things to gin up tensions and create maximum outrage?

@ImNotGas, you just advanced to level 17!

Arbery was sparking outrage before Floyd IIRC.

So was Taylor.

ah yeah

Floyd was sort of the 'last straw' moment.

It's been sung about for 40 years

50 years, since civil rights movement? I just can't believe it took this long

it's really sad

police should have dropped bodycam footage immediately

but good for now, but I just feel too manipulated by media

To be fair, changes like that take generations after generations.

i have no idea why they didnt with the floyd thing

is it true floyd had corona when he was arrested?

@ImNotGas Ongoing litigation usually and investigations.

Depends on jurisdiction.

@nainani yes that came up in autopsy

I don't like arguing in peoples deaths, but things can be taken out of context all the time

i'd say the officers are culpable for manslaughter, it doesnt look like there was any intent there

there is context, then there is out of context, i am confused because like ACAB, can these ultimatums always be true? can it be true that all cops are racist? or that there is always excessive force? I don't know. People's arguments against this claiming he was overdosing, he had corona. What other reasons than police brutality could he have trouble not breathing. But this just seems too hard to touch. How can we really know what happened unless we were there