Message from @busillis

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2020-12-27 18:25:25 UTC  

So these guys will take the rap.

2020-12-27 18:40:38 UTC  
2020-12-27 18:59:03 UTC  

Emotionally charged videos like these are part of the problem.

"I don't know how they went to arrest him" probably the events that had occured are relevant to the understanding in their use of force escalation.

"Didn't go over his criminal history"

Again probably relevant.

He's running. He turned his vehicle into a danger to the public to evade police, evade prison.

His argument would have sympathy (for me) if the guy was unjustly arrested while cooperating with police on the job site this guy commenting heavily invests his anger in.

The cop did place himself in danger which as he said was dumb. But all of the events prior to that moment play in to the use of force evaluation still.

2020-12-27 19:02:10 UTC  

I disagree increased aggressive tactics by the police kill citizens @SoonMrWick

2020-12-27 19:02:51 UTC  

The guy doing the commentary is ex-cop

2020-12-27 19:03:29 UTC  

Sure. But making an emotionally charged video without even knowing what had occured when they went to arrest him or any of the decisions which went into that are relevant and left completely out of addressing this situation.

2020-12-27 19:04:38 UTC  

If the guy's on probation or parole didn't know where he lives, why escalate?

2020-12-27 19:05:13 UTC  

If they saw him on a job site they know where he works

2020-12-27 19:06:09 UTC  

I'm not the decision maker on that. And I'm not claiming they made the right decision. Because its left out ...while he's going on his rant with public that might absorb it and have a massive anti-cop sentiment that could result in even further danger to the public by not covering it in full.

2020-12-27 19:06:18 UTC  

If you like gestapo police I guess to think shooting people is fantastic.

2020-12-27 19:06:59 UTC  

Summary executions are tight.

2020-12-27 19:07:06 UTC  

Did I say shooting people was fantastic?

2020-12-27 19:07:09 UTC  

In theory police work for the people and they're doing the people's work so if you want killer cops? What ever.

2020-12-27 19:08:28 UTC  

Did I say that? Both of you are putting words in my mouth.

2020-12-27 19:08:49 UTC  

You're supporting killer cops.

2020-12-27 19:09:03 UTC  

I was speaking for myself. Apologies for not requesting permission protocol.

2020-12-27 19:09:18 UTC  

Bullshit. I'm addressing the video creators contributions to making things even worse

2020-12-27 19:09:37 UTC  

It's aggravating when people post random shit and leave it to others to infer their intention, huh?

2020-12-27 19:09:50 UTC  

It is worse. You should watch all that dudes videos he's pretty fair I think.

2020-12-27 19:10:09 UTC  

In some of the videos he explains why the forces justified and others it's not.

2020-12-27 19:10:52 UTC  

I just posted it cuz I like the guys videos.

2020-12-27 19:11:10 UTC  

No, his entire video catalogue is not going to be analyzed to know that this video as circulated does not cover what it needs not to contribute in an escalating manner.

2020-12-27 19:12:30 UTC  

Running out in front of the guys vehicle so you can shoot them is just stupid on the cops part.

2020-12-27 19:12:43 UTC  

You're assuming motive

2020-12-27 19:12:52 UTC  

It was stupid

2020-12-27 19:13:14 UTC  

If the cops didn't have qualified immunity they probably wouldn't be putting themselves in dangerous situations so much.

2020-12-27 19:13:24 UTC  

> I just posted it cuz I like the guys videos.
@busillis I like his videos as well.

2020-12-27 19:14:55 UTC  

If you get into a traffic accident with the cop and it's their fault you have to jump through all kinds of hoops to get your vehicle repaired. The law is not equal when it comes to police.

2020-12-27 19:15:07 UTC  

that's just wrong.

2020-12-27 19:15:34 UTC  

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.

2020-12-27 19:16:45 UTC  

This is where I diverge from Republicans I have a serious problem with abusive power.

2020-12-27 19:17:33 UTC  

So do I.

2020-12-27 19:17:57 UTC  

Police abusing their power elected officials abusing power??

2020-12-27 19:18:24 UTC  

Somehow it's found acceptable

2020-12-27 19:18:39 UTC  

Did I say it shouldn't be addressed?

2020-12-27 19:18:51 UTC  

No

2020-12-27 19:19:21 UTC  

Get a lawyer.

2020-12-27 19:19:43 UTC  

F*** a lawyer

2020-12-27 19:19:55 UTC  

Is she hot

2020-12-27 19:20:15 UTC  

Not sure if robert gruler takes cases like that