Message from @Whithers

Discord ID: 783898734504574986


2020-12-03 03:27:29 UTC  

No?

2020-12-03 03:28:07 UTC  

And @ReclaimTheLaw planning the deliberate commission of a murder is not a mental state. it is a mental action.

2020-12-03 03:28:43 UTC  

the same standard is "reasonable" but that which is reasonable is differentin each case , , , I can say no more

2020-12-03 03:29:20 UTC  

Accidental homicide is not a thing. Negligent homicide is a thing.

2020-12-03 03:29:21 UTC  

What is reasonable depends on crucial contexts you seem to want to ignore for whatever reason.

2020-12-03 03:29:26 UTC  

What..?

2020-12-03 03:30:39 UTC  

Tree falls down in front of the highway, you unfortunately have less than 250 milliseconds to react, you roll your car and hit a pedestrian. This is completely, 100%, out of your control.

2020-12-03 03:31:33 UTC  

I didn't use eithe r of those terms . . . I am from UK so there is some difference in parlance, but the principles of "accidental", "kknowingly" or "intentionally" are common to all Common Law jurisdictions

2020-12-03 03:31:33 UTC  

@ReclaimTheLaw, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-12-03 03:31:35 UTC  

Where the cases have the same elements they are equal. Ceteris paribus requires that the same act is illegal or legal in both cases. (I hate my keyboard right now. It double spaces and doesn't space at random, backspaces and wont at random. Making this very difficult, lol)

2020-12-03 03:32:02 UTC  

lol, I need a new keyboard too.

2020-12-03 03:32:06 UTC  

Know that feel.

2020-12-03 03:32:11 UTC  

@Maw Then it is a justifiable action, not an accidental one.

2020-12-03 03:32:20 UTC  

get a mechanical keyboard

2020-12-03 03:32:22 UTC  

How is that negligent?

2020-12-03 03:32:25 UTC  

pricey but they are hard to break

2020-12-03 03:32:35 UTC  

unless you are prone to spills

2020-12-03 03:32:41 UTC  

It is a mechanical key board. I need a key puller so I can clean the contacts.

2020-12-03 03:32:58 UTC  

It is not negligent. It is justifiable.

2020-12-03 03:33:41 UTC  

my keyboard is the same !

2020-12-03 03:33:42 UTC  

Negligent is when you knew the risk existed and acted without caring about the consequences. Where you don't know the risk exists cannot assess that risk it is justifiable.

2020-12-03 03:34:31 UTC  

There are no accidents and no coincidences, as a general rule.

2020-12-03 03:35:11 UTC  

I have a magegee mechanical keyboard, red gaming, bluekey.

2020-12-03 03:35:24 UTC  

negligent is without knowing, criminal negligence is when you didnt know but should have known (strict liability), reckless is knowingly, and intentinoally is with intent

2020-12-03 03:35:53 UTC  

Roughly parallel language.

2020-12-03 03:36:29 UTC  

Again, laws are written by lawyers to be accurate not comprehensible. Otherwise, everyone would practice law.

2020-12-03 03:36:47 UTC  

it would be good to be able to talk rather than text !

2020-12-03 03:36:55 UTC  

lol

2020-12-03 03:36:57 UTC  

For sure.

2020-12-03 03:37:04 UTC  

is there a voice room on this server ?

2020-12-03 03:37:14 UTC  

I'll see if I can't get faith to reinstate the VC when she's around again.

2020-12-03 03:37:25 UTC  

Yeah, but in a forum this big that becomes problematic (hate that word).

2020-12-03 03:37:42 UTC  

there are non problematic uses of the word problematic

2020-12-03 03:37:52 UTC  

We would need a lot more channels.

2020-12-03 03:38:00 UTC  

A LOT more channels.

2020-12-03 03:38:03 UTC  

maybe channels limited to 5 people each

2020-12-03 03:38:05 UTC  

I've also brought that up with her.

2020-12-03 03:38:07 UTC  

and have a few

2020-12-03 03:38:28 UTC  

so its more for actual discussion instead of howling at the moon

2020-12-03 03:38:43 UTC  

Again, still getting discord all set up, as I don't have authority to do that stuff, I have to bring it up to Faith first.

2020-12-03 03:38:50 UTC  

And she's a busy woman.