(I am not a libertarian though)

The Who, Where and Why is what makes it messy IMO.

Some regulation is needed but regulation results in regulatory capture. Which is basically crony capitalism.

Hardly very anti-liberty.

Though that compass test is hugely inaccurate.

@Maw "Health" and "Safety" seems to be an overused Term?

Depends on what you're talking about.

My 8values results from yesterday would probably scare a lot of people though. lol

I am against administrative law for the most part. I think they should just be involved in providing transparency. The actual laws should go back the legislature.

It seems to be a GoTo for Regulatory Agencies.

I prefer liberty over safety

Same, in most instances.

The government seems to want to protect me from success 😂

Example. Ban Pit Bull Ownership. Grass/Lawn Height Regulations.

The instances where I say "Naw" are ones in which you endanger the safety of others.

"Where your rights end are where my rights begin"

@Maw are there Bad Pit Bulls or Bad Pit Bull Owners?

For me it depends. I am strongly 2A. No background check, no finger printing. Full auto, CHL. If you lose your gun rights you probably shouldn’t be walking around. But let’s say you have someone unstable. They can be on a list.

I'd be careful with the latter half of that statement.

What I read was “I’m really libertarian but I’m not really libertarian 😂😂😂

@blueorbit, you just advanced to level 4!

What the government deems worthy of suspension of rights should always be questioned.

Yep.

With background checks we are all in a list. So I think it checks out.

The label is different than the idea.

I am trying to get off the list.

Yes. Who defines "Unstable" and who makes the determination?

It’s happening now. My proposition is no more dangerous than current bans and red flag laws.

"If you lose your gun rights you probably shouldn’t be walking around."

Is more what we're like: "Ehhhhhh"

on.

I am fine with no unstable list, I am just saying that’s the farthest I am willing to go.

I 💯 believe this. If you served time you should get your gun rights back.

Except as it exists, you lose them most of the time indefinitely, regardless of the felony.

And sometimes? Even without a felony.

Some are trying to rationalize being Disabled (SSDI) is the same as unstable.

If you can’t walk around with a gun safely and not endanger others someone should should probably be making sure you’re okay day to day.

@Gypsy, you just advanced to level 7!

Would not endorse that philosophy.

You're making the assumption that the government is working with good intentions.