Message from @Matthew

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2018-06-11 05:41:12 UTC  

Why would any given local ISP inherently be an abuser that mistreats its customers?

2018-06-11 05:41:22 UTC  

....profit?

2018-06-11 05:41:36 UTC  

>Instead of dismantling an abusive system, become an abuser! How logical.
But by providing a fair alternative, you'd dismantle said abusing system <:thvnk:332928260004642827>

2018-06-11 05:41:37 UTC  

What prevents me from establishing a non-profit ISP?

2018-06-11 05:41:48 UTC  

....cost?

2018-06-11 05:42:10 UTC  

....Did you know that Habitat for Humanity charges money for houses?

2018-06-11 05:42:17 UTC  

captilism my friend

2018-06-11 05:42:44 UTC  

It's obviously too expensive to just give people free houses but they build them and sell them at very low costs, effectively relying on donations to survive.

2018-06-11 05:43:14 UTC  

Furthermore, wouldn't there be a profit motive in filling an unfilled niche of "ISPs that don't fuck people over"?

2018-06-11 05:43:23 UTC  

Did you know that erecting a house with readily available materials is nowhere close to the level of complexity as wiring an area with the infrastructure to provide internet access?

2018-06-11 05:44:09 UTC  

Go to your community center and ask people in your area if they're interested in a fair alternative to your current isp. If you get enough people take a credit, maybe even get some state subvention. Build the lines to the next center and you're gucci.
You'd could extra credit by building them on lines instead of underground.

2018-06-11 05:44:41 UTC  

Indeed. Some towns already do this.

2018-06-11 05:45:02 UTC  

My town does it. And it sucks shit.

2018-06-11 05:45:45 UTC  

>company charges you more
>it happens to be a better service

2018-06-11 05:45:49 UTC  

I wonder why.

2018-06-11 05:46:18 UTC  

Why does it suck shit?
If you know you may support them.

2018-06-11 05:46:19 UTC  

Oh well. My state already passed a law basically reinstating NN, so I guess I'll be fine

2018-06-11 05:46:47 UTC  

Before gigabit became normal, it was very common for those to be better, but now they're lagging behind.

2018-06-11 05:47:09 UTC  

Indeed.

2018-06-11 05:47:43 UTC  

By the way, Washington state's net neutrality law is not going into effect immediately due to constitutional concerns.

2018-06-11 05:48:06 UTC  

That's nice.

2018-06-11 05:48:18 UTC  

I don't think you even understand what that means.

2018-06-11 05:48:30 UTC  

Inform me.

2018-06-11 05:49:54 UTC  

Basically they're not sure if the law is legal or not

2018-06-11 05:50:27 UTC  

I'm not exactly sure of how jurisprudence is in the region in regards to this

2018-06-11 05:50:49 UTC  

The Ninth Circuit tends to be very progressive on the internet, in the sense of federal power trumping state power.

2018-06-11 05:51:27 UTC  

So it's quite possible that, despite the fact they're the farthest-left federal judicial circuit, they'll rule that Washington violated the Constitution.

2018-06-11 05:51:34 UTC  

Dat fucking

2018-06-11 05:51:36 UTC  

It could reach the Supreme Court.

2018-06-11 05:51:41 UTC  

Cyberpunk trailer

2018-06-11 05:51:43 UTC  

Holy shit

2018-06-11 05:51:49 UTC  

I jizzed my shit

2018-06-11 05:56:07 UTC  

Indeed

2018-06-11 06:36:00 UTC  

I just wanna pay less than 70 bucks tbh because we dont really use any more than like 200Mbps at once