¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if that even means anything nowadays

There are probably 3rd party regulators. Independently verifying luxury goods.

Probably cheaper to get them verified in China before export than verifying them in the destination country

Just a 30c piece of chinkshit isn't worth verifying.

http://corporate.findlaw.com/litigation-disputes/suing-underwriters-laboratories-in-a-products-liability-case.html

I don't think 3rd parties work anymore

The internet is a powerful tool for self-regualtion too. If anyone gets injured by a product, it's all over social media quickly.

So companies want to avoid it.

And I can anecdotally tell you that from personal experience, commercial and profit based auditors are generally a little lax and follow a lot of personal bias to save time, their own and their clients' in kind

Companies and management folks don't generally prioritize these things. Verification is a bothersome roadblock that they want to get through with as little fanfare as possible- 9/10 times they put that burden on engineers, who sometimes aren't going to be at their best judgment level

Esp after pulling that 50-60 hour week yet again because the damn designer wanted the device to have some ridiculous initialization sequence for a e s t h e t i c

So they're gonna just say fukkit

A lot of consumer products nowadays are pretty close to being safe from factory. Without the need to quality check.

Kek

As production process get more automated, the chances of safety issues decrease too.

Main issues are still around electrical goods.

What if the design spec is garbage

As seen with Samsungs prones

phones*

We will eventually get to a point where designis automated too

Where the limit is resources rather than ambition

Not sure if you speak from experience or not but you're right about the process being more automated, but it's hard to say if safety is going to be a priority, vs time to market

Dev cycles already have corners cut like crazy

Imagine your electronics having the same weird bugs as your average Web 2.0 nodejs nubfest

When you have a fully automated production cycle, time to market will be about getting the raw materials in time, rather than the output to shops

and a 3rd party regulatory establishment would be created to independently verify chairs > yeah lmao just like rating agencies :^)

The inputs will be the slowing factor, rather than the outputs

You sound like a blackboxy manager

When you say stuff like that

I am in managment... hah

But I'm far from libertarian, and agree that governemnt needs to regulate for the forseeable future

Treating factories like an automated machine is a good path to the future, but machines need to be audited and tuned

Eventually it will be a never-ending cycle of machines fixing and tuning eachother.

I'm not libertarian either but I can't say that deregulating is generally a good thing, nor is over-regulating shit that the dummy government has no business regulating

It woulsdn't be deregulation, it'd be more moving regulation to the private sector, and becoming a by choice thing.

The main disadvantage to comapnies in not to regulate would be customer trust, but an advantage would be cheapness.

I'm sure many people would choose to spend like $200 on a car if it ment being a death trap, and that is their choice.

Perhaps; it would be nice if people valued certification and they brought some value into the chain by actually being more involved in product development, perhaps by integrating and mandating compatible testpoints, ala JTAG or OBD-II ports

Standard testing could at least let the factories and inspectors have a stable platform to work with instead of the slipshod way things are done now

who checks if the 3rd party regulation agency does its job properly?

Well UL used to mean something