Message from @shadowedROM
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Free market would technically fix that if it happened in America. People would stop buying chairs from the company and a 3rd party regulatory establishment would be created to independently verify chairs.
It's just the death in the first place that leads to the actions. Reactionary style regulations.
Is there a UL equivalent in China
Underwriter's Laboratory
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if that even means anything nowadays
There are probably 3rd party regulators. Independently verifying luxury goods.
Probably cheaper to get them verified in China before export than verifying them in the destination country
Just a 30c piece of chinkshit isn't worth verifying.
I don't think 3rd parties work anymore
The internet is a powerful tool for self-regualtion too. If anyone gets injured by a product, it's all over social media quickly.
So companies want to avoid it.
And I can anecdotally tell you that from personal experience, commercial and profit based auditors are generally a little lax and follow a lot of personal bias to save time, their own and their clients' in kind
Companies and management folks don't generally prioritize these things. Verification is a bothersome roadblock that they want to get through with as little fanfare as possible- 9/10 times they put that burden on engineers, who sometimes aren't going to be at their best judgment level
Esp after pulling that 50-60 hour week yet again because the damn designer wanted the device to have some ridiculous initialization sequence for a e s t h e t i c
So they're gonna just say fukkit
A lot of consumer products nowadays are pretty close to being safe from factory. Without the need to quality check.
Kek
As production process get more automated, the chances of safety issues decrease too.
Main issues are still around electrical goods.
As seen with Samsungs prones
phones*
We will eventually get to a point where designis automated too
Where the limit is resources rather than ambition
Not sure if you speak from experience or not but you're right about the process being more automated, but it's hard to say if safety is going to be a priority, vs time to market
Dev cycles already have corners cut like crazy
Imagine your electronics having the same weird bugs as your average Web 2.0 nodejs nubfest
When you have a fully automated production cycle, time to market will be about getting the raw materials in time, rather than the output to shops
and a 3rd party regulatory establishment would be created to independently verify chairs > yeah lmao just like rating agencies :^)
The inputs will be the slowing factor, rather than the outputs
You sound like a blackboxy manager
When you say stuff like that
I am in managment... hah
But I'm far from libertarian, and agree that governemnt needs to regulate for the forseeable future
Treating factories like an automated machine is a good path to the future, but machines need to be audited and tuned
Eventually it will be a never-ending cycle of machines fixing and tuning eachother.
I'm not libertarian either but I can't say that deregulating is generally a good thing, nor is over-regulating shit that the dummy government has no business regulating
It woulsdn't be deregulation, it'd be more moving regulation to the private sector, and becoming a by choice thing.
The main disadvantage to comapnies in not to regulate would be customer trust, but an advantage would be cheapness.
I'm sure many people would choose to spend like $200 on a car if it ment being a death trap, and that is their choice.