at a slightly higher price you can get a Kia eNiro which is fucking loaded with options

Errrrr

Slightly?

@Mereck the interior looked like a 10 year old Renault, the materials, the build quality, everything

It's like almost 50% more expensive

isn't it like 35k vs 45k eur?

idk where you are but here nah

at least that's local pricing for Zoe vs eNiro

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Starting price for Zoé in France is around 20k

(without any bonus)

Kia e-Niro is more like 35k

So sure it's better, but it's like... not "slightly" more expensive

As for me I was looking into the Leaf

But it's on par with that Kia

And I'm not about to fork that money

Also

this is just

I'm ok with buying second hand

ugh

Zoé second hand is cheap, but Leaf isn't

new gen leaf?

I heard Leaf, even new gen, sadly has pretty serious battery degradation problems

If possible but even previous gen would be fine if it's in the more expensive models

which has to do with the way they're cooling batteries

Well shiet... it looked nice on the paper >_>

IIRC Nissan air cools them, where as most other EVs these days do liquid cooling

look up the issue I'm not entirely sure rn

but a 4 or something year old first gen Leaf would have 50% capacity

if only there was a market with aftermarket battery packs already

only then can EVs truly "bloom"

Apparently it's still air cooled on the new models

They just say it's "better prepared"

Not sure what that means

But then I'd probably be using this car for commute and short/medium length travels (< 100km)

if you can buy a 5 year old EV which used to have 300km range on paper (so like 250 realistically)

and put a brand new aftermarket battery pack inside which would raise that to 400km of real range

that would make EVs much more feasible for the average wagecuck

So I'm not that much concerned on battery issues unless it's very severe

well I'd expect the battery issues to become worse if you drive short distances, especially in summer

seeing as there wouldn't be enough air circulation to properly cool them but I'm no genius so what the hell do I know ???

I'd have thought the opposite?